• mar_k [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      becoming extra nationalistic after experiencing 2020: the year your country grossly mishandles a pandemic leading to innumerable deaths while BLM puts a spotlight on the violent systemic racism around you

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        Yeah but have you considered that Biden was such an amazing leader that he completely restor-- I’m being told he fell down the stairs complaining about corn Cob again. biden-forgor

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    Bit idea: tradcath who believes all deadly sins can be forgiven except pride in being an American because Jesus could not have known about America yet when he died for your sins

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        The 7 deadly sins are very loosely based on a few of the 10 commandments, but were created by Gnostics in like the 200s AD.

        Pride: Bearing false witness? Greed: No Stealing? Wrath: No murder? Envy: Coveting your neighbor’s wife? Lust: Coveting your neighbor’s wife? Gluttony: – Sloth: –

        So really they’re just kinda their own thing that the Gnostics/Catholics came up with for confessionals.

        Gluttony and Sloth aren’t linked to any commandments, but are likely added to target Epicurians/Hedonists/Materialists. Honestly most of them are reactionary positions against the more agnostic philosophies of Greek and Roman philosophers.

        It’s the guidebook for being a reactionary cult in the collapsing Roman empire.

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          I’ve heard a few different people argue that all of them are really just pride/greed. Lust, Gluttony, Envy, Sloth are just Greed in different “areas” of life. Wrath and Pride are more similar, but could be seen as either Greed itself, or as a reaction to greed. Like, wrath as a protective reaction to one’s greed, and pride as a reaction once greed has been achieved.

          I think one of them even suggested its all pride, as Christianity largely sees pride as the #1 sin. To me it makes sense, because a medieval peasant could run this show better then god at this point. If the poors think they’re better then the dumbass running the show, they might do something. Make even the thought of replacing god a crime and you got a self controlling populace.

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            In traditional Catholic views Pride is actually closer to blasphemy/apostasy than anything else. By taking “pride” in your accomplishments you reject the alternative: thanking God. You’re tacitly saying God wasn’t involved. You pair that up with the idea that all non-Christian religion is rooted in primordial satanic trickery. You get the idea that pride is akin to rejecting God and doing self worship because you aren’t worshipping God and being humble. Satan is everywhere God isn’t. But Satan can only be where God isn’t and being unholy is doing bad so Satan only really exists in bad choices people make and not acknowledging the primacy of God in all things is a bad choice and therefore the sin of pride.

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        What I was taught is that they’re pre-sins, like pre-diabetes. If you’re on a sinful path and don’t change course, your lifestyle will lead you to sin. So lustful people will eventually cheat if they’re not corrected, greedy people will steal, etc.

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            The pre-sins aren’t full sins until you break an actual rule. The point is to straighten people out when they’re at the stage of giving bad vibes and red flags, before they’ve done anything serious.

            But also yeah pretty much. It’s Catholicism lol

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    still splitting it by the meaningless metric of political party

    And they don’t even show the “moderately proud”, “only a little proud”, or “not proud at all” lines.

    Here’s the actual June 2025 result

    In other words, the chauvinism is still going strong. But who knows about the polling methodology.

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        I’ll give them a tiny amount of slack in that they probably need to keep the question consistent over a long period of time (going back to at least 2001 according to this chart). But it is absolutely agree it’s a totally chauvinist/jingo question.

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      Props to the fence-sitters at “only a little proud” for hedging their bets.

      And I’m a little proud to be an American.
      Where at least I’m free for now.
      And I’ll sometimes recall the men who died.
      Just to ensure access to the developing world’s resources for me.
      And I’ll probably stand up next to you.
      And offer tepid praise.
      Cause there are some doubts I love this land.
      The US is just okay!

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    atleast now (and maybe) burgerstani’s are waking up to reality of our country’s penchant for political violence and skullduggery.