• Vespair@lemm.ee
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    This has always been the point.

    It has never been about which restroom trans people use, it was always been about being able to harass and vilify trans people.

    The right doesn’t want to just enforce gender binary, they want to erase anything and anyone that falls outside it.

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    Don’t expect any logic from regressives. What they want is not for trans people to use a specific bathroom. They want all trans people dead.

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    They dont care what bathroom a person uses. It’s not about the restroom … it’s about legal harassment.

    Also … what the fuck are people doing to get gender checked and arrested? There is no law about obeying the gender sign (at least not in my state or any state I have been in). Is walking into the wrong bathroom a crime or something?

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    Once again, the point is to harass trans people out of public life altogether.

    This isn’t about logic or fear, it’s hate and domineering. They’re nazis. No excuses.

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      Yeah. This kinda stuff might help sway some people but for the fascists drafting these bills, this is not a contradiction. The bathroom they want trans people to use is none. They want trans people to not exist.

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      I think bathrooms are such a common issue with bigotry because shitting is a vulnerable state where in nature makes us vulnerable to tooth and claw type predators. Therefore it’s a psychological shortcut to appeal to danger and panic.

      Forgive me for making an evolutionary psych argument, but I feel comfortable that I’m not overreaching.

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      i once took a shit in a unisex bathroom in a park in portland…
      oddly enough, it was exactly like taking a shit in any other bathroom…

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      Changing only men’s bathrooms is just asking for backlash. Just make every toilet an individual unisex half bathroom with floor to ceiling walls and doors. A toilet, a sink, and a mirror. No more silent mode shits, no more pee shyness. If raising the national minimum wage only made products go up by a few cents some bathroom construction loans will barely do the same. I’ll pay an extra 10 cents for my burrito… Oh that’s right they already have individual bathrooms. Airports, malls, amusement parks, stadiums, music venues? ¯\(ツ)/¯ get gud

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        At work they put in a bunch of these during a renovation a few years ago. Only problem is we hit hard times and didn’t renovate more bathrooms so these are far away. I make the trek over to them when I need to poop though. So much nicer than the men’s room.

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        If they changed building code so all new buildings did that it would solve the issue. but my solution won’t change existing infrastructure. Its just a sign change.

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        I would consider arbitrary rules that are intentionally impossible to follow based on hate is very very dumb.

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      Yeah that works, but often male toilets currently only have one stall. Would need to shift that balance for this to be an effective strategy.

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        Exactly! That’s why elevators, train-cars, busses and airplanes are always segregated by sex.

        Being serious for a moment I just want to point out the irony in using the threat of male violence as an excuse to uphold patriarchy rather than a rational for dismantling it.

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          To be fair, gender neutral bathrooms do give a predator opportunity to follow a woman into a bathroom without sending immediate red flags. It’s a hard pass from me.

          Speaking from experience, unfortunately.

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          Yup Thats my point. Keep women bathroom as is. Open up the “biological male” bathrooms to everyone.

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            Yeah not sure why you’re being downvoted, I think people just assume you’re the person I replied to originally and just downvote without reading.

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              I Don’t see downvotes lol.

              I suspect it is because as other commentors mention is this poses risks for Trans people outing themselves. I see gender neutral bathrooms regularly at events and not just 1 stall either. So I hardly consider this a controversial take especially when the existing rules lead to jail time if you follow or dont follow it.

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      None of this would happen if we just did it in public. Just saying. /s

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    They’re obsessed with trans women.

    That trans men also exist breaks them.

    This would never have happened had a trans woman entered the men’s.

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      I wouldn’t be surprised if this idiot of a bar owner doesn’t even realize trans men exist and assumed this dude was amab and female identifying or something.

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    I’m pretty sure that recent UK Supreme Court case ended up making it illegal for trans men to use any public restroom. My understanding is that it forces trans women to use the men’s but has a carve out saying that trans men can’t use the women’s.

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      It’s like their weird concept of immigrants that are simultaneously lazy non-contributors and taking our jerbs.

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      Not sure why you are getting down voted. I had friends faced with very uncomfortable choices if they were unable to get home at time.

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        Yeah. Idk, probably because I said I’m trans. Lol Haters gonna hate. But it really sucks that we have to go through this.