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One of my guilty pleasures is watching horrible videos of people being removed from planes and arrested for being way too drunk.
On airplanes what they do with someone who won’t leave their seat is get everyone off the plane, and then arrest the person at the gate as they leave, or drag them kicking and screaming from the plane.
The fact that they wanted to show up in full CODBLOPS TACTICOOL GEAR for this shit is the most disturbing part.
Drunk white women? Everyone gets off the plane and the Karen is hauled screaming.
(What is likely a) Misdemeanor immigration violation?? We’re going in there like fucking Snake from Metal Gear.
Shithole country.
Shithole species.
Shithole phylum.
Embrace fungus.
Its a damn shame lemmy doesn’t have a repost feature.
Everyone is getting into these nuances (like, the goggles can be unclipped.) But if you know you are going on to a goddamn airplane, why would you wear any of this big bulky shit in the first place? You’re limiting your ability to move in a crowded space. You know he doesn’t have a gun because he went through TSA (because those guys are super accurate and professional, right?) so this “bad guy” could just start crawling over seats to try to get past you and get off the plane, meanwhile you’re stuck in the aisle like a turtle on its back with your Ya’ll Queso beer belly and all your big boy GI Joe gear.
It’s not just that. More people need to know about how escalation works. Yes, there’s a strong tactical advantage to being more prepared than your adversary. At the same time, you have to consider what the opposition will do to attack/defend when confronted with superior numbers, weapons, and body armor; they’ll likely try to match that force as much as they can. Since it’s a space filled with civillians, this ramps up the risk of the operation tremendously (e.g. take a hostage or get dissapeared). They would have done much better to dress like typical cops without all the tac gear. Yanno, de-escalating the situation rather than the opposite. The passengers on this plane should be pissed.
Remember when they mag dumped the UPS truck in FL and killed hostage, suspect, and bystander all at the same time? As long as they get to use their toys, anything approaching ROE or tactical plans beyond “shoot everyone and sort it out later” are just a waste of their time since no one penalizes the behavior.
TIL:
Police officers Jose Mateo, Rodolfo Mirabal, Richard Santiesteban, and Leslie Lee have all been charged in June 2024 with Manslaughter because the bullets that killed the two innocent victims were traced back to their weapons, which were discharged a combined total of nearly 90 times during the shootout, and all four have so far pled not guilty to all of the charges.
These fascists want to feel like big, tough soldiers but aren’t qualified for military service.
Maybe their hoods are in the laundry.
Not enough bleach in the world to clean the shit off of those
It makes them feel powerful and cool, that’s it. They’re insecure, broken, pathetic, childish man-babies who need that gear to feel that they’re in charge. It’s not about what’s useful and logical, it’s about them psychologically needing it and also thinking it makes them look threatening.
Serious question, what was the guy being arrested for where they needed to be armored but don’t have guns drawn on the supposedly dangerous criminal?
Need to make people fear dying or going to a death camp so they don’t interfere.
Showing strength but claiming weakness to get more power to do further actions only they find excusable. Classic fascist.
If there’s one place you don’t need to be armored, it’s arresting someone on a plane. Everyone has already been screened by security and even their nail clippers have been confiscated.
You don’t dictate your outfit in the vast majority of military organizations, you just get told where to go and what to do.
This isn’t military.
Sure looks like it.
(I know it’s not)
It is a paramilitary now, though. Like the SS.
Wannabe-military. Just following orders is their speciality
Tell THEM that.
If you don’t think the police is a military like organization then idk what to tell ya buddy
The military is often far better trained and disciplined and follow their rules and guidelines and can actually shoot what they aim at and don’t mag-dump a random car when a squirrel drops an acorn on it.
You can be a cop with a high-school diploma and a few weeks of training, and it’s almost impossible to get booted from the industry once you’re in.
Even fewer requirements for ICE and the other goon squads who are cosplaying all over the place right now.
Cosmetologists have more training than a cop, and they require a license from the state.
The military has its own issues but also built its own prison. If you fuck up bad enough you go to Leavenworth for a long stay whereas all these shitbags with hand me down MRAPs get a month of paid leave and the city they work for pays out restitution to people who’ve been horribly wronged while they clock insane overtime and moonlighting checks using the badge for profit.
You basically just need to be a US citizen who speaks English to be an ICE agent, and the pay starts higher than I’ve ever made, before the 5-figure bonuses for deployment.
Police you’re looking at police at least ostensively.
Presumably you have an entire brain inside that skull of yours and it would be a shame not to use it
They really just sent in the gravy seals for this op.
Meal Team 6 is on the case!
I have friends that served in Afghanistan, Iraq, and even some that volunteered in Ukraine, and each one, to a man, has said they didn’t have half the toys these tin soldiers carry while they were in an ACTIVE FUCKING WARZONE.
In those wars the money was for pockets, not equipment.
The night vision is one thing, but the obese US police officers wearing tactical/military gear is fucking worse.
I don’t even think they’re cops. “Deputized” true believers is my bet.
Brown shirts.
Bootlickers
Chumps
I can go on
Please do
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Gravy Seals!
That backpack is full of doritos
Not mine
Holy shit! LOL! I would like to see him perform a simple combat roll.
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Cops cosplaying as soldiers. Christ I hate this timeline. They’re pathetic.
IIRC that all the clothes they had because their regular gear got wet and the dry cycle hadn’t finished by the time they got called to the plane. The news I got also said they were wearing tactical gstring panties.
It makes them feel desired! Don’t slut shame them.
Fuck yeah Centurians
Fucking loved that cartoon
Some human monkeys will reach for higher goals, like knowledge and/or a truer sense of community to what we have.
Some human monkeys will get mesmerized by shiny bling, which on an intellectual level is an equivalent to rubbing feces on themselves and flashing their teeth.There’s a painting from WWI, done by a German artist, can’t remember the name, but it’s like a portrait of your generic military general. You cannot see the body nor the face, it’s all covered in hundreds of meaningless badges and medals.
We still see this bullshit today in any official picture from a Pyongyang parade, just look at the generals standing beside the “dear leader” or whatever they call him.These stunted mindless grunts on the airplane are a reflection of man’s failure to transcend the goddamned swamp from which we came.
which on an intellectual level is an equivalent to rubbing feces on themselves
I just got a little stuck on this part, because wouldn’t the equivalent be people rubbing feces on themselves? I just mean that we can do that, too, is all.
tacticool gear.
Gestapo did invest a lot in nice Hugo Boss image.
We are definitely in an era where people just want to feel powerful or in control and will ignore any level of atrocities to that end. And it’s easy to lie to yourself. Because you will say what you want to hear.
10% of the population is still getting everything it could want and the lies that its all worth it. I don’t know how we retrigger empathy though in a world of manufactured apathy.
Most cops have some kind of tactical gear kept in the trunk of their car. They don’t mess with it for each call they grab and go.
I’d rather have them wear night vision for nothing than spend an extra 10 minutes fucking around in the parking lot to not.
But I do agree with the main point of the post. Clothing plays a part in our psyche. If you dress sharp you’ll act sharp. If you dress slopply you’ll act sloppy. If you dress like a soldier you’ll act like one, and that usually isn’t what cops should be doing. Hammers seeing nails and all that.
i’d rather they not exist as a paramilitary arm of the state with a license to murder people. the same people they pretend have rights.
In this case both points are correct:
That shit probably sucks to install and remove, and only SWAT should need it.
It always embarrassed Samuel Vimes when civilians tried to speak to him in what they thought was “policeman.” If it came to that, he hated thinking of them as civilians. What was a policeman, if not a civilian with a uniform and a badge? But they tended to use the term these days as a way of describing people who were not policemen. It was a dangerous habit: once policemen stopped being civilians the only other thing they could be was soldiers.
GNU Sir Terry
Point blank, cops shouldn’t have swat gear or be treated as a paramilitary group. They’re supposed to protect and serve. Cops shouldn’t be a tactical force, they should be public servants.
That was before the 1997 North Hollywood robbery, which changed all that.
So, it can be changed.
Tough changing things back to where they were – cops armed only with a pistol and a nightstick. Now they have to use all that gear and weaponry to up the intimidation factor and to make clear they mean business. Whether it’s a store robber on meth or a heavily armed group of narcos. It’s so worse now that some procedures have to be rewritten.
I do not forget that the United States has the most firearms in private hands, more than any country.
Where I come from, gun laws are very strict and the only people carrying heavy firearms other than military and police are either the few with special licenses, or stolen weapons used by bandits, separatists, and terrorists. So by consequence the police in my country are locked in an arms race against those outlaws, cops now equipped as much as the soldiers sometimes they have to work with.
I agree, however I could argue there are times when having a tactical force IS the public service. Not saying the pic posted would be one of those times though
Then send in a tactical unit for those situations that is specifically trained for the situation. We’ve seen how police handle those situations and I really don’t feel like escalation is the best approach for guys who can’t be bothered to do their job in the first place, let alone be properly trained and ready for a tactical de-escalation. Fuck off with the excuses for these fucking pigs.
Okay so ordinary police are out. You’re in charge of this new tactical unit, what does it look like? Where is the line between a ordinary response and a tactical response? What gear/technologies would they have as default and what would they have access to?
I’m not trying to be a dick, I’m truly curious because if we want reform we have to have a goal to reach. Change is cool but change to what?
Police should be there to cordon off the area for a tactical response in these situations, then negotiators communicate while a properly trained and equipped tactical team prepares a response and infiltration plan with the intent of non lethal response and a contingency for lethal action if the perp escalates it to that level, this part would be something like snipers, who’s first priority would be observation, keeping watch until they get a signal. Planning would be situational, as there is no universal outline for these situations. The job of the police in a tactical response situation should be crowd control, everything else is above their expertise.
For a lot of stuff that would work I think. But it also sounds a lot like how they used to respond to active shooters back in the late 90s. Terrorists used to hijack or take hostages to negotiate political demands, not just try to kill people.
So in that case that plan isn’t great when people are helpless inside while waiting on a tactical team. That’s why Uvalde caused such an outcry against the police response. They were crowd control when they had every chance to engage the shooter. You’re right, there’s no perfect plan for everything. I do think a negotiate/deescelate approach would be very helpful
The way it currently works for departments around here is their SWAT guys do ordinary patrols but they have extra training and gear to respond to tactical stuff too. I wonder if we could do the same for the other side of the spectrum and have some officers with extra training as negotiators?
A state set up tactical response team that was trained and prepared for the situation solves that problem entirely. Less funding for militarized police and just transfer that funding to a tactical response outfit. You’re acting like doing something new is simply impossible when it’s realistically the only logical conclusion, the funding and supplies are there already it’s just being used on complete bullshit.
Dont they have clips for quickly getting them on/off?
They do, but it’s cops so it might take them a minute lol. Other than speed taking off the nvgs also fucks with the balance of the helmet. The other stuff on the back acts as a counterweight. Still removable but still I bet they just wanted to grab and go
This. They’d have to pop off the counterweight too, especially if these are bump helmets not ballistic, which tbh 50/50 could be either.
But why only two have ears? I’d rather have ears than nods, honestly! Weird choice.
(It’s possible there’s just not enough pixels to see the last guy’s ears lmao)
Looks older, likely a SGT who just wants to dress up too but his mic is up above his ear.
Oh I see it there, thought that was part of the plane or something lol
Mic pointed up in case Jesus whispers down on comms or something I dunno. Watching these bumblefucks walk around in tactical gear they’ve clearly never worn except in front of a mirror is just embarrassing.
Quick. Someone make a /mallninjashit community. This would be a great first post. Just sayin’
