I find it incredibly disruptive every time this page comes up and it’s never completely capable of restoring my tabs. Is there any way to disable it so that it will instead update when I choose to restart Firefox?
When this happens, Firefox has been updated in the background & the non-updated parts that’re loaded into memory attempted to load one of the updated parts & found that they were no longer compatible, causing this message to appear.
At this point you HAVE to restart Firefox in order to be able to use it, no way around it. Soooo very fun on Mac & Linux since both can update in the background. It’s also possible to have this happen on Windows, but it’s far more rare as it seems to require having multiple different instances running at once.
On Linux at least, if you install through the package manager, it’ll only update when you update the rest of your packages. And you can be completely in control of when that happens.
On my work Mac, I just update manually. The menu icon tells me when a new version is available, so I update within a day or two of that popping up.
On Linux at least, if you install through the package manager, it’ll only update when you update the rest of your packages. And you can be completely in control of when that happens.
Except on Ubuntu. Also, fuck snaps
Ew, those get installed via the regular package manager?
Don’t use Ubuntu then…
Ubuntu installs the snap version by default whether you’re using the GUI software manager or
apt.I use Mint instead nowadays
Damn, computers have gotten really far if nowadays we’re happily throwing away the performance of dockerizing ˜everything on entirely normal application installs. Sigh.
Sucks when the company I work in uses Kubuntu.
I could disable this feature easily. But idk…
Additionally something to keep in mind: Better than Windows in every aspect. I would still use Kubuntu. Its fine.
Probably doesn’t happen as much on Windows because Windows has issues replacing files that are open.
Common windows W 😎
^/s
Happens to me on Windows about once a week FWIW.
Hamburger menu -> Settings -> General -> “Firefox Updates” -> “check for updates but let you choose to install them”
As for losing open tabs, there’re a few different extensions that’ll allow you to bookmark all open tabs and throw 'em in a folder. Easy enough to do that before updating, then just delete the folder that’s created via the bookmarks manager once you’ve updated/reopened tabs.
be warned, it’ll give you unearned optimism about how responsible you are to revisit the tabs you saved but will never see the light of day again.
Source: someone who’s disappointed in themselves
I got bookmarks going back a decade, sometimes I try to visit a random one and find that it no longer exists and I don’t remember what it was or why I saved it
When you mentioned it I remembered that of course there is a setting for this… but when I went to check it just says “Updates disabled by your organisation” In this case it’s a work laptop that has a bunch of “security” things installed on it which prevent me from doing things like …installing applications I need to do my job. Not sure how Firefox is able to update when it’s been explicitly disabled, but I will at least change this setting on my personal computer.
In that case the issue is likely that files on disk are being modified by whatever mechanism your IT uses to push updates to devices. If the program files are modified while Firefox is running then you will unavoidably get this prompt.
I suppose the best you can do is to ask your IT folks to not update programs that are currently running.
You can also go to the Menu > History > Restore recently closed tabs
Or something similar to that.
Never seen anyone using the phrase Hamburger menu. I’ll be using it now onwards. Thank you random lemmy user!
I have been using Firefox as my only browser for many, many years now and I have never seen that message before.
it only appears on linux if you update your browser while it’s running.
iirc existing tabs usually just keep working but you cannot reload or open new ones until a full browser restart.Updating anything with stuff running is a bad idea. Yeah, yeah, I know all about the cases where this works, but I’ve spent too much time fixing it when it doesn’t.
Good luck trying to update systemd
atomic updates 🧠
Same, but I’ve only recently started seeing it
Are you on Ubuntu/using a snap installed Firefox?
I’m on macOS.
Oh, I am sorry
Do not worry, for they have fallen like many of our siblings; yet they are in a better place than some, like windows users.
You’ve got it backwards. Of the two, Windows is closer to the open source ethos. Apple is a total control freak. Obviously both are bad, though.
At least MacOS is more Unix-like. So yes, in nearly everything important to a Linux user except CLI-UX (Command line interface user experience, nice word lol) Mac is worse than Windows somewhat, but as I would see the CLI-UX as one of the most important things (in my workflow, which is based on Linux tho), Max would be better than Windows. But of course, both are trash.
Weird. I’ve never seen that on my Macs. I always have to click on “About Firefox” to check for and download any updates so it only updates when I do that.
There’s also the menu icon, which let’s you know there’s a new version and you should update.
I’ve never had Firefox update without my consent on macOS or Linux.
I’ve never had any issues with tabs not restoring (I have 6729 tabs currently open, on the newest FF release, updated many times). What do you mean by “never completely capable of restoring my tabs”?
I’m guessing they mean that state on the page is lost. Because that absolutely happens. I’ve never lost a tab and I usually have dozens if not hundreds of tabs open.
How do you tab through so many tabs
With the little upside down arrow thing, you can search through open tabs. No need to scroll through them. I think that answers what you were asking.
Thanks for answering How, now the real question is Why.
I may have misworded it a bit. The tabs themselves get restored, but the state of the tabs (being logged in to a site, for example) isn’t always retained. In all fairness this is perhaps due to my privacy settings, but I’d prefer it if Firefox didn’t force me to restart.
oh yeah, that happens to me too sometimes. Weirdly, it only seems to happen to some sites, while others always keep me logged in.
A different angle of attack might be … why isn’t it capable of restoring your tabs and is that fixable?
Particularly relevant since this seems to be IT enforced updates.
But it restores tabs? In fact I think nowadays that’s the default behavior unless you turn it off.
Did you read what OP wrote?
I don’t know why two of you are replying to me saying “but it restores my tabs?”
I’m asking OP "what’s going on that it doesn’t restore your tabs?’
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I’m looking for a soultion as well, since I use always private mode my tabs aren’t even restored after the restart and I get to lose all my tabs lol.
Well, for me it usually only appear after my tabs already crashed
I have the same issue but I feel the main problem is not this page but the fact that the tabs are lost. I’ve been using FF for so long and I keep losing tabs on updates. It’s really frustrating.
You can enable saving the tabs when closing Firefox. I use Firefox like this since a decade or so. Open Settings > General > Startup and check option “Open previous windows and tabs” (its the first top most option on that page).
You can also open the Menu > History > “Recently Closed Windows” and probably open the last window this way? I don’t know if this works after an update. But in the History menu could also be an option “Restore Previous Session”, when a session is available (maybe after an update??).
Honestly, I don’t know why Firefox does not ask to reload tabs, after restart of an update. I think it’s an oversight.
You can enable saving the tabs when closing Firefox.
It is on and has been for years but I still lose all my tabs regularly.
Is it because of Sync? Container Tabs? I don’t know
If I’m not too mad next time, I will try to find out why I lose them but my instinct is to reopen right away the tabs that I need the most.
I see. I am using Firefox like this for years and it works for me and I thought it would for everyone else by just enabling the option.
As said, you could also look into the History menu to restore last session or closed window. And if all of this does not work for you, either look into an alternative plugin (should be the last option in my opinion) or simply save all open tabs in a temporary bookmarks folder before restart / update. Such a manual solution is always ugly, but if nothing else helps…
Couldn’t you just close Firefox overnight and then set updates to happen at 3am?
When I finally got tired of them crashing my browser at random times I took the time to stop them.
You can change the addresses that it uses to check for updates in the about:config. To be sure though I put all of those addresses and IP’s in the hosts file to make sure there could be no contact. Now my firefox updates when I update my machine. Some of them may not be mozilla specific but all of them are blocked by me.I got this list by using a squid proxy on a VM to log all addresses firefox connected to and watching the logs as firefox ran with no sites loaded over a two week period.
You can use the list below to search for keys in the about:config to change. Or you can just put these in your hosts file.
This is my list
127.0.0.1 safebrowsing.googleapis.com
127.0.0.1 push.services.mozilla.com
127.0.0.1 incoming.telemetry.mozilla.org
127.0.0.1 detectportal.firefox.com
127.0.0.1 img-getpocket.cdn.mozilla.net
127.0.0.1 region1.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 contile.services.mozilla.com
127.0.0.1 mozilla.cloudflare-dns.com
127.0.0.1 contile.services.mozilla.com
127.0.0.1 versioncheck-bg.addons.mozilla.org
127.0.0.1 content-signature-2.cdn.mozilla.net
127.0.0.1 helper1.dap.cloudflareresearch.com
127.0.0.1 dap-02.api.divviup.org
127.0.0.1 shavar.services.mozilla.com
127.0.0.1 aus5.mozilla.org
127.0.0.1 versioncheck.addons.mozilla.org
127.0.0.1 firefox.settings.services.mozilla.com
I think detectportal.firefox.com is used to detect if the current Wi-Fi connection requires the user to log in on a portal page, like the public Wi-Fi at airports or cafés. It redirects you to the log in page. Why would you block that?
Yeah I think so but I didn’t care. I blocked them all since I don’t have a portal at my house. The point was to block their access to my machine. My trust is at all time low for most of these companies.
