In they tune of “if you’re happy and you know it clap your hands”

  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    I don’t know about the fed level, but in my limited experience the haircut thing is not really accurate. I feel like looking at haircut and shoes comes from another and much more primitive era of law enforcement. A lot of undercover people work long-term as undercover people, and they have deliberately sort of “fellow kids” hair and facial hair.

    Vibes and how well you know the person are more reliable than any specific checklist. If you wanted the checklist though, this is not a bad one.

    One additional thing I’ve noticed as a tell is that everything is polished. Whatever type of “street” clothes they want to put on, the shirt tends to be neat and spotless, everything is clean, the facial hair is groomed. I imagine it varies by the skill level of the person, but in general cops don’t like to be sloppy. Even their “sloppiness” costume will still be neat and presentable.

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      I don’t think this was intended as a replacement for proper vetting processes. Sure, looking at people’s haircuts won’t catch the worst ones, but not all would-be infiltrators are super-spies, either.

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      Not to mention - the “tight and high” and “looking better with a suit and tie” throws off the whole anarchy thing for everyone.

      Much easier to do anything when you don’t look or act like a threat.

      Results are what matter anyway. Unless we are all free, there isn’t a point to rebelling aesthetically.

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    There’s also a long history of undercover feds self-identifying as anarchists, and leaked intelligence training that pushing for anarchism is one of the best ways for them to disrupt leftist movements trying to establish a socialist/communist state.

    But y’all don’t like to talk about that.

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      Yeah they act like anarchists because they’re the actual opposition. There’s no point in them dressing up in foreign uniforms to lure irrelevant tankies.

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        I like how the first person came in with some nonsense and you turned it up to TURBO nonsense.

        Lemmy needs a better moderation model. When gibberish starts to be a significant part of the conversation, having volunteers apply “the rules of the community” just doesn’t accomplish the purpose of keeping it productive. Idk what the answer is, but this is not what success looks like.

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      “Hey everyone nice party you’ve got here but have you consdiered all the ANARCHIST INFILTRATORS DESTROYING YOUR RANKS FROM WITHIN?!!! Why isn’t anyone taking this infiltration seriously!? I think we need to clean house immediately and get all these CIA Anarchists out!”

      Who are you again?

      Anyway maybe that tactic works so often because most “leftist” gatherings are just another rally for another cult of personality around another authoritarian leader? If these people weren’t investing so much energy into vanguarding and demonizing “the bad leftists” they might have built some actual solidarity and resistance to being infiltrated by cops.

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        If he dismisses leaked CIA tactics, he’s a fed.

        If he dismisses leaked CIA tactics, he’s a fed.

        If he dismisses the deep state, as internal leftist hate.

        If he dismisses leaked CIA tactics, he’s a fed.

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          If he pushes leaked disinfo, he’s a fed.

          If he pushes leaked disinfo, he’s a fed.

          If he slanders anarchists, tryin to make antagonists,

          If he pushes leaked disinfo, he’s a fed.

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            https://ponder.cat/u/surph_ninja@lemmy.world?page=1&sort=Controversial&view=Overview

            Just gonna leave that there. Search for “2014 Maidan coup” for example, or “Bernie” or “blue MAGA.” Or “Taiwan.”

            No idea what this guy’s talking about in this instance, it makes about as much sense as the very notable coincidental confluence of other stuff he likes to talk about. But as pertains to this case, all the leaked operations where people found out what the feds were up to were roughly 0% “let’s promote anarchism and infiltrate the ranks because that will discredit the left” and roughly 100% “let’s keep tabs on the left indiscriminately, in case we have to shoot them or throw them in prison.”

            Periodically, they would try to promote infighting or discredit some notable leader, but it was mostly that second thing. They don’t have to be all 5d chess about it, they have guns and prisons.

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                Is that what it is? I have been generally baffled by the dishonest accounts that tend to say both “yay Russia” and “yay China” sort of with equal fervor, alongside a random little rogue’s gallery of other bizarre takes of which this is an example. I genuinely considered whether the strategy was just to be wrong about everything for some reason I can’t understand.

                @surph_ninja@lemmy.world where do you get this stuff? Like what news do you read / who do you listen to that tells you that this all is how it works? I want to read more.

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      if he’s got no sense of humor he’s a fed

      if he’s got no sense of humor he’s a fed

      if someone posts a joke

      and all that guy does is poke at it for not having perfect meter when the history of comedic music from Gilbert & Sullivan to Weird Al is rife with elongations and contractions to make a joke fit a melody

      if he’s got no sense of humor he’s a fed

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        If he’s a stickler for the format he’s a fed
        If he’s a stickler for the format he’s a fed
        If he really seems to mind
        That your lines don’t really rhyme
        If he’s a stickler for the format he’s a fed

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        If he’s got no sense of rythm he’s a fed.

        if someone posts a joke

        Do you really suggest I stress that on “one” and… what, the emptiness at the end of the line? A stressed pause? Courageous.

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          I wouldn’t dare suggest what you stress in an anarchy community.

          Oh, btw, here’s the ‘h’ you dropped from rhythm. Have some more so you’ve got spares.

          hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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            Someone seems to have confused “no rulers” with “no rules”. Also there’s no h in ῥυθμός that’s some Anglo colonialism you’re involved in, there. You probably stole all of those from the French.

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              there’s no h in ῥυθμός

              Not acknowledging that that rough breathing mark is an “h” is the real Anglo colonialism here.

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                I’m not Greek and know nothing about the diacritics, but from wikipedia seems to just be ρ with rough breathing. Should be “rhe”? I may be saying the complete obvious, that’s just what I got from the wiki :p

                It indeed is “rhythmos”.

                • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPM
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                  I know, but the letter is actually just ρ. We don’t have a different sounding r in Greek

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      Third epitrite (dah dah DAT dah) aka 4/4 offbeat throughout. In the original last dah after “hands” (which is on DAT) is a pause.

      I shall simply be pointing out “Fits betER with a suit AND tie”. That ‘er’ is not a place where you can put stress, under any circumstance, and the “and” is questionable at best given that it would be the first syllable to vanish into “suit ‘n’ tie” in natural speech.