Jesus. Another one of these? Every freaking day. (Promise it’s different)

I personally like mint and pop!os for new users, but for this user I want to try something windows like with more sex appeal. I don’t want to have to touch this computer again. Proprietary software is not an issue/consideration. User is techier than most. What has your experience been with kbuntu? Pros/cons? Other suggestions?

  • TheModerateTankie [any]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    1 hour ago

    I just switched to a ublue distro (bluefin) and think it’s great. These are designed from the ground up to be an “install it for a family member or friend and never have to touch it again” experience. They are based on Fedora. Bluefin has been the most trouble-free install of linux I’ve ever tried. I can’t say enough good things about it.

    I would go with Aurora (essentially bluefin but with KDE instead of Gnome), unless they do a lot of gaming, in which case Bazzite-kde would probably work best (bazzite is more up-to-date which can mean more instability).

    These are set up to use flatpak with a software center, so all gui apps can be installed from there and is similar to windows. It updates everything automatically in the background and only requires rebooting whenever you want to switch to the updated system. Also the immutable nature makes it hard to break, but if something does go wrong it makes it easy to roll back to the previous working install. There are also GTS versions of bluefin and aurora available, which are pinned to more stable releases so there’s even less chance of breakage.

    Live USB installs aren’t stable yet so that might be an issue if you want to make sure hardware works before install, but you can install to a usb harddrive and boot off of that to check it out that way.

  • merde alors@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    3 hours ago

    I personally like mint and pop!os for new users, but for this user I want to try something windows like with more sex appeal.

    what don’t you mean by “sex appeal”?

  • data1701d (He/Him)@startrek.website
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    edit-2
    6 hours ago

    I’m personally a fan of Debian. Default KDE isn’t bad looking from what I can remember (I personally don’t use it - I neither hate or love it just because I love XFCE). I’m personally a big XFCE fan, but you do have to do some work to get it working good, and there are still jank parts here and there.

    While no distro is completely set and forget, I think Debian Stable is as close as you can get. Once you install it and get it working the way you want (depending on your setup, you might encounter minor issues as with any distro), it will pretty much stay that way until you upgrade to the next version, and you can go up to 5 years before upgrading.

    I would recommend you use the KDE (or whatever DE you want) live installer, though, as the default installer is quite unintuitive. You can find it in the list of installers at https://www.debian.org/distrib/.

    I’ve never used Kubuntu specifically, but I would personally avoid Ubuntu these days if just because of Snaps. Also, Ubuntu is heavily bloated - base Ubuntu is almost unusable in a VM now, while vanilla GNOME and PopOS run well in VMs on the same machine. Personally, when I need to test Ubuntu builds, I always prefer working with PopOS.

    Overall, I’d say if you don’t end up using Debian (I don’t blame you - while I like it, you might not), just please don’t use anything Ubuntu-based that isn’t Mint or PopOS.

    • ddh@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      2 hours ago

      Agreed. For a new user that wants to minimise system maintenance I’d recommend the atomic version, Fedora Kinoite. Flatpak plus rpm-ostree makes it like a phone where you can just do system updates and install/remove apps.

  • lordnikon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    8 hours ago

    Debian is always the forgotten choice. You can install kde at time of install. It’s stable and can be upgraded in the background automatically even between major versions. Doesn’t have snaps making hell for the user. For any apps they need the newest version of Flatpak is right there in Discover software center.

  • FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    9 hours ago

    Well there are no operating systems that you can install and forget, unless they never plan to go online with the machine. They all need updating which can be set automatically. The only problem is if it requires manual intervention, sometimes updates don’t go as planned, then a roll-back might be necessary. They could try an immutable linux distribution if they are worried about screwing up their installs or something. Fedora kinoite may be their thing, or Bazzite which is based on that.

    • Trimatrix@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      6 hours ago

      The embedded IoT crowd would like to refute your claim that there are no operating systems that you can install and forget.

      The collective would like to stress that any operating system can be installed and forgotten. Please note, that usefulness and security may be impacted.

      /s

      Also, to be technical there is CollapseOS which is an install once and forget sort of thing.

  • 0x0@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 hours ago

    Focus on the DE instead of the distro. There used to be one that has “windows look” as a goal.

    • ClipperDefiance@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      9 hours ago

      I’m pretty sure that’s Zorin. I’ve never used it myself, but from what I’ve heard it might be a good choice for OP’s person.

        • ClipperDefiance@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          9 hours ago

          I wasn’t aware that there’s a paid version. Based on their website it does look like they have a lot of standard stuff locked behind Pro. Is it just like an additional repo or something? I’m also not too keen on the fact that the upgrade doesn’t carry over to the next major version.

  • orenj@lemmy.sdf.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    8 hours ago

    If you want windows with sex apeal, the KDE desktop environment’s treated me pretty well. I’m using Fedora, though you could get it from other distros too

  • tisktisk@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    7 hours ago

    Kubuntu is excellent for the stability imo. Super sane and low-demand defaults make for a reliable/enjoyable experience
    I only use gentoo now so I can’t offer suggestions other than maybe alpine for servers

  • warmaster@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    10 hours ago

    If you want a set it and forget it distro to never touch his computer again, then consider going a Ublue distro. Aurora (only KDE), or Bazzite (choose the KDE image) if he does gaming.

  • Ulrich@feddit.org
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    10 hours ago

    I want to try something windows like with more sex appeal.

    Elaborate?

    I don’t want to have to touch this computer again.

    This person will undoubtedly need help and if they can’t help themselves you will be the one helping them. Mint is best-case for ease of use so your requirements are a bit contradictory.

  • oranki@sopuli.xyz
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    8 hours ago

    Another vote for Aurora.

    Universal Blue in general has been really solid, I remember one time in the last year or two when there’s been any need for manual intervention. And that came with a notification after boot, with a link to instructions that were all copy-pastable as-is to the terminal.

  • N.E.P.T.R@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    9 hours ago

    Fedora KDE edition or OpenSUSE Tumbleweed/Slowroll. Otherwise could try Aurora.

    I avoid Ubuntu base because it is slow to update packages, and the inclusion of Snap packages are a no from me.

    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 hours ago

      Surprised I had to come this far to find tumbleweed. Its hard to kill and easy to fix. Love it.