It’s a tiny ass island yet whenever a British person hears another British person they’ll be like “Oi guvenor! I know exactly where in Merry-ol-England they are from! Clearly they’re from Bovinshire-upon-Weavilton!” And Bovinshire-upon-Weavilton is a town like 10 minutes away from where they live.

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    This is normal. In fact there used to be more divergent dialects. Oh and americans speak like 17th century brits. The modern english accent is newer than the american one.

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      The US is probably the outlier here with too few regional accents given the vast land mass. I would attribute it to the population growing alongside the successive innovations of rail, radio and television so that regional dialects blended into each other.

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        And is probably why the east coast has more accent variation in a smaller area. New York even has accents that vary from borough to borough I am told!

      • media tends to lump “the south” into a single, monolithic accent that always seems to be some affected-as-hell Texas twang (where they pronounce “onion” like it has a “g” in it), but IRL there is a lot of variability between low country, piedmont, Mississippi delta, and southern Appalachian.

        that doesn’t even get into who uses what idioms.

        mass media has a way of flattening regional differences.

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      Americans speak a little like 17th-18th century Brits but honestly Devon or Cornwall is closest. Just talk literally like a pirate and you’re mostly there. The John Adams tv series is painfully lib but gets that right.

      Also if you go back to Henry Viii things start going Dutch/Frisian. which is concerning

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      Oh and americans speak like 17th century brits. The modern english accent is newer than the american one.

      this is entirely incoherent.

      americans do not speak like 17th century brits. which brits anyway?
      there’s no such thing as “the modern english accent”. which one?
      you cant have an accent that’s newer than another, they’ve all changed with time, they’re the same age.

      this stupid meme comes from ONE feature of the accents. rhoticity. all english dialects used to be rhotic until a few hundred years ago, when non-rhoticity started spreading. it spread out from london and gradually covered most of england. wales, scotland and ireland are still rhotic.

      it also spread into the american colonies, which is why the old new york accent is non-rhotic, as well as the boston accent and at least some of the southern accents. and of course AAVE. the rest of america retained its rhoticity.

      but this is just one feature of the accents, not the whole thing. each accent is conservative and innovative in turn, keeping some old features that others lose, innovating some new feature that others lack.

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      If you want to make a British upset, tell them their accent is wrong and Americans are closer to Shakespeare’s accent than they are.

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      I LOVE the early modern English dialect and accent. I use it sometimes as a gag when pretending to be olde timey and it turns out no one csn understand a word I’m saying. People really don’t pay attention

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    Regional accents are good.

    They connect people to a history, the landscape and the world around them. They’re basically the only non-toxic and commonly accepted form of identity politics a lot of British people have, on of the last threads connecting people beyond culture war bullshit. They’re the primary way most people ever hear or think about working class history and pride (in a non made up tabloid way).

    Also, they make the language interesting with lots of regional words and idioms plus lots of them sound funny or nice.

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    You should see Wenzhounese in China.

    Completely indecipherable to me.

    It’s a Wu language, but not mutually intelligible for other Wu languages like Shanghainese, let alone Mandarin or Cantonese. Furthermore, within Wenzhounese, there’s 3 dialects for north, central and south.

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    Nah, I think that’s how people are. The French had a nationalist unifying project where they obliterated a large amount of variation, and settler colonies (by virtue of a bunch of people coming together to occupy land) also have less variation than most other places.

    It’s just the english speaking world is mostly settler colonies that it seems weird to us.

    (I don’t like nationalism very much)

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    Nah it’s neat.

    What sucks is when they make media that assumes everyone else knows which goofy accent belongs to which corner of their country and what pile of stereotypes they have against each other.

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      its nice when regional sterotypes are so easily identifiable, in the US it can take half a conversation before you get to make fun of where they’re from