• conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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    This is why cops should support police reform. Otherwise, stuff like this is the only path people will see to getting justice when the police overstep, and it’s going to become a lot more commonplace. Accountability, it turns out, is a good thing.

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      Even as a young LIB I understood that giving cops a free pass undermines their legitimatcy as an authority and will only lead to accountability coming from the people.

      Now I’m like, COPS HAVE NO AUTHORITY! cool-zone

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      there’s no amount of reform that would help this fascist police force. The only possible path to an acceptable “police” would require a complete and total purge of the existing system, leadership and rank-and-file. The entire culture needs to be burned to the ground, the old organizations and unions dismantled

    • Lussy [any, hy/hym]@hexbear.net
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      Exactly. Right now they’re used to eating donuts and beating up black children, do they really want the hostile populace they so desperately desire?

      • no, they want to feel tough.

        they would fold in any scenario where the numbers and odds were actually even, let alone against them.

        look how they whine at being in a population where a growing segment simply doesn’t respect them.

        if most of us were truly hostile to them or threatening, they couldn’t move around in teams smaller than 4-6 and they certainly could not get out of their vehicles without support. like a drone watching from above and prepared to make something bang. the entire calculus of “patrol” would change drastically.

        no more napping in a car or posting up in a parking lot and playing on the phone. no more walking into a restaurant or getting takeout, unless it’s in some kind of Green Zone hardened complex. they would have to radio in everybody who was on a cellphone looking in their direction. they would have to live in a barracks and/or wear a balaclava literally everywhere, in the heat of summer. the job would become taking turns sitting at sluggish checkpoints with jersey barriers and going out to investigate junk on the side of the road that might explode and take a few of appendages.

        they have no idea what kind of shitshow it means to actually police a hostile population with no obvious language or cultural barrier.

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        I think some of them might? Even though once they got that wish they would find themselves worse off, I think a lot actually want to feel like soldiers, and use their weapons, vehicles, and tactics, so they can feel as cool and important as the military they no doubt feel inferior to, and use the equipment they’re given for free.

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      even the “humane” and “benevolent” European police brutalizes/kills minorities and leftist en-mass, the changing of the class character of society is the only police reform that is worth a damn.

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        Idk, homie. I’m constantly turning between “progress takes time” and “we don’t have time”. You’ve probably recently seen the meme I just plagiarized. I’m in local office now, making a plan to run for a higher local office to try and make things better however I can. I’m working with local activist groups to push the city to make things better. I’d launch the revolution if I could, but I haven’t been able to find it. I’m trying to do whatever I can.

        • Simon 𐕣he 🪨 Johnson@lemmy.ml
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          My point is that police reform literally is impossible because they represent a system that is unaccountable in reality. It’s entirely unacceptable to charge ethnic minorities of hate speech against themselves and yet the glorious star of the Euro system has cadres of lawmakers, beurocrats, judges and police make this a reality.