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schizoidman@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

US says Israel's use of weapons may have violated international law

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US says Israel's use of weapons may have violated international law

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schizoidman@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    The news here is that the US “may have” admitted it finally.

    • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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      That Israel could have perhaps possibly maybe committed a war crime or two.

      Probably.

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      • davel@lemmy.ml
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        If people haven’t figured out by now that the US doesn’t give a rats ass about the Palestinians, I don’t know what to tell you.

        • List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
        • A Detailed Chronological List of US Interventions, Invasions, Destabilzations, and Assistance to Oppressive Regimes (ending in 2002)
        • The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
        • Shock therapy (economics)
        • Are We The Baddies?
        • The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
        • Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich

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        Cut off all support and Israel buddies up with China, India, or possibly even Russia.

        Neither China nor Russia is going to give Israel the time of day. I can think of no reason why India would, either.
        Full text: China-France Joint Statement on the Situation in the Middle East

        (The latter is becoming unlikely as Russia begins to unravel).

        😂

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          Neither China nor Russia is going to give Israel the time of day

          Russia is actually Israel’s #1 exporter of Jews, which is vital for maintaining their racial majority. As a consequence Russian-Israeli relationships are warm. Bibi and Putin are on very good terms.

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      • LarkinDePark@lemmygrad.ml
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        Cut off all support and Israel buddies up with China, India, or possibly even Russia. (The latter is becoming unlikely as Russia begins to unravel).

        This is some really deluded shit. You’re living in a fantasy world. Change all of your beliefs and information sources.

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          Israel already has very close ties with Russia as (iirc) its the country sending the most Jews to Israel to maintain the Jewish majority. That said, Russia sparing any munitions for anyone else is doubtful.

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            “Sending”

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        Cut off all support and Israel buddies up with China, India, or possibly even Russia.

        Ain’t happening. I don’t know why India would even be involved here, and China has no need to project power over the middle east. Russia would be importing weapons from Israel, not the other way around.

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          Well yeah, it ain’t happening since the US ain’t cutting off all support for Israel. That is known and countries have shaped their strategies around it. The US abandoning Israel would be a table flipping event.

          Russia would be importing weapons tech from Israel. Israel can’t come close to matching Russia on production volume, and Israel’s needs are a sliver of what Russia uses in Ukraine.

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            Israel’s needs are a sliver of what Russia uses in Ukraine.

            Russia has been importing weapons from North Korea, and Israel uses absolutely ridiculous amounts of ammunition for their size.

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        I’m not up to date with the Russia news. How are they starting to unravel?

        Edit: I like how the guy I was replying to provided a whole well thought out list and the mods removed it because he was talking bad about Russia. Classic lemmy

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          They aren’t. This person is running on Western propaganda and copium fumes.

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            “Western propaganda” fucking lol

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              first-time

              A KGB spy and a CIA agent meet up in a bar for a friendly drink.

              “I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.

              “Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”

              The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”

              .

              • Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
              • Propaganda model
              • Edward Bernays
              • Walter Lippmann
              • Council on Foreign Relations
              • Powell Memorandum
              • The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy
              • PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocksB
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                Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

                Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine

                Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

                I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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                Can I borrow your tinfoil hat?

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                  Aside from the first link they’re all Wikipedia, and none of them are considered controversial in the least. This stuff is regularly referenced in scholarly works and covered in college curricula. It’s standard stuff in polysci, public relations, marketing, history, etc.

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            • Rolder@reddthat.com
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              Most of what that guy was posting has basis in reality though.

              For corruption, there have been plenty of instances of high up officials being arrested for corruption, such as: https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/24/russia-arrests-deputy-defence-minister-suspected-of-corruption

              For the oil refineries, there have been a number of drone attacks on them. There was one just the other day that was well documented https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/05/10/ukrainian-drone-attacks-oil-refinery-in-russias-kaluga-region-a85086

              And for Russian morale, that one is harder to verify but does seem roughly true: https://cepa.org/article/russias-army-is-in-disarray-but-will-keep-fighting/

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                I wouldn’t disagree that Russia has corruption, but I don’t think that means much. It’s much less corrupt now than it was when Yeltsin’s government let the Western shock therapists come in and plunder the country. Putin’s government kicked them out. Ukraine is famously the most corrupt country in Europe, though reports about that mysteriously stopped in 2020. Just based on the cost-plus model of our military-industrial complex alone, the US is very corrupt.

                And I wouldn’t disagree that Ukraine’s drones will continue to be a challenge for Russian infrastructure. They can only reach so deep into the deepest state landmass on Earth, though. Eastern Russia is largely barren, though, and I’m not trying to discount the drones by arguing it isn’t.

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  • davel@lemmy.ml
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    orly

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    So the CIA has needed “only” 6 months to get the info.

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      That is political ‘info’.

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    But the administration stopped short of a definitive assessment, saying that due to the chaos of the war in Gaza it could not verify specific instances where use of those weapons might have been involved in alleged breaches.

    Just throw a dart at a map

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    This is like Hitler telling someone to tone down the racism.

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    this shit aint gonna save your skin, biden! nothing but the total dismantling of all settler colonial entities will suffice for world peace. power to the palestinian resistance and the american college protesters.

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    amerikkka

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    “May” so they need another six months of examination to see if things have cooled down and conclude that they didn’t.

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    The usual snake-like double talk from the mafia states of America.

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    Breaking News: all this white phosphorus may in fact be breaking international law

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    “Israel has not shared complete information to verify whether U.S. defense articles covered under NSM-20 were specifically used in actions that have been alleged as violations of IHL or IHRL in Gaza, or in the West Bank and East Jerusalem during the period of the report,” it said.

    Because of that, the administration said it still finds credible Israel’s assurances that it is using U.S. weapons in accordance with international law.

    The perpetrator didn’t tell us what happened so we find their written assurance of innocence still valid.

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