• Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteOP
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    One thing he doesn’t touch on (much) is that a significant number of NDP supporters - probably “working class” supporters - seemed to flip to the Conservatives, and not the Liberals.

    The party is going to have to reckon with that, too.

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      a significant number of NDP supporters - probably “working class” supporters - seemed to flip to the Conservatives, and not the Liberals.

      Yes, and this is incredibly troubling.

      There were many surprising conservative votes in the GTA (resulting in quite a few flipped seats). What I don’t understand, is how do municipalities with large immigrant populations, vote for a party of anti-immigrants?

      We saw in the States many Latinos voting for Trump. What are you thinking at that point??

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        I think it’s a nuanced question - I’ve heard that the Cuban community in Florida is very Republican because they’re seen as stronger against the Cuban regime.

        In other cases, I think people are very willing to vote for people who promise to help them with their most immediate problems (regardless of how credible those promises are), and overlook the rest.

        And we should never underestimate the willingness of people to close a door behind them once they’ve gotten through it.

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          All of that makes me sad, tbh.

          Yes, believing a lie (or hundreds of them) could explain it. But when you’re talking about trump, especially on a second term, you can’t claim ignorance!

          But as a Canadian of immigrants, I feel like we should be lifting each other up, not “shutting the door” behind us (great description, btw!).

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            Another thing to consider is that many people simply aren’t that engaged, and the news ecosystem on both sides of the border has deteriorated to the point where it’s very easy to go through life with bad information, or no information at all.

            It’s probably not that hard for a low-information voter to be swayed by big talk, even if they’re not a cultist.