There is more to life you know? When will liberals learn.
Edit: I changed the title so that people will understand what I am getting at. It is important to realise that economic anxiety trumps other concerns, especially in the growing wealth inequality and the overt shows of oligarchic rule. As Franklin Roosevelt said: People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
The fact that the US is inherently a two party system is the biggest factor holding them back, in my view.
I’m very glad where I live has an MMP system, meaning a government is usually a coalition, and it’s quite possible for a new party to enter politics.
“Identity politics” is a right-wing fabrication used to promote the identities of “white” people, bros, cishets, etc.
It’s only use and purpose is attacking marginalized groups. Thus the current attempts to reinstate systemic racism/patriarchy to the extreme.
These sorts of dishonest memes are a complete denial of reality. Both “parties” collaborate to promote fascism.
Helping with cost of living, housing, health care and education isn’t socially progressive?
What kind of society do you live on?
Socially progressive today means specifically civil rights and other similar platforms. Think gay marriage and trans healthcare.
I am so curious as to how this will go over on lemmy.
Fine. Most people here aren’t fans of the current Democratic Party.
Most people here aren’t, but too many have a cult-like dedication to the party that makes them say “the Democrats are bad, but we can’t do anything except Believe™” at the eleventh hour. Remember how people here felt about the Uncommitted movement and calls for Biden to withdraw from the nomination? Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about.
What is meant by identity politics here? I feel like this term is so nebulous as to be almost meaningless.
Running on socially progressive platform alone is not enough to win an election…
Like say, minimum wage increases, healthcare Improvement?
I’m not from the US, but the minimum wage thing was pretty prominent.
That is what I am insinuating. But last time I promoted those, there have been pushback from neoliberals and trolls in the midst. Thought I was pushing an “agenda”.
Raising the minimum wage has been talked about for decades now? And yet the Democrats never really seriously wanted to implement it? The talk on economic progressivism is all performative; considering that time when Bernie Sanders criticised Trump at a Democratic convention, he was cheered on, but when he started talking about minimum wage and Medicare for all, he was booed. A staffer of Kamala cautioned then presidential candidate not to openly criticise the oligarchs and wealth inequality before going on stage (before the debate with Trump?), but stating in hindsight she probably should have done so. All of these really points to the Democratic Party not serious enough to dealing with more pertinent issues that affect ordinary people of all background.
Yes! Focus on cost of living – gas, groceries, rent! Help people¹ out!
¹(white, hetero, cis men)
What “identity politics” have the democrats been doing?
Not advocating for killing trans people is apparently “identity politics”
But they weren’t even really defending trans people in the last campaign. I don’t know what OP is talking about.
why do you think they nominated Harris? because of her experience? because of her broad support? her charisma?
why all the “i’m with her” stuff?They nominated her because of her experience and name recognition as vice president.
she has no experience
Attorney general of CA, senator of CA, vice president of the US. Certainly no experience at all.
one term as senator is not experience, being the attorney general is negative experience.
being VP is not experience.
A considerable number of lgbt, Latinos and African-Americans voted for Trump than before. Gen Z also voted for Trump.
Putting someone in an insecure state makes them vulnerable to emotional manipulation. And that insecure state is economic insecurity, as alluded in my title post. 60% of Americans are living pay check to pay check. Several Latino families are living in under one household. Young people feel they are locked out of jobs and from owning their own homes. If liberals in their high horse don’t get this, well, it is not like they have not been warned before.
Yep even MLK Jr. started talking more about wealth inequality and connecting it to discrimination and bigotry before he was assassinated.
The point being made isn’t that the dem’s are doing enough to talk about the economic mess we are all serving. We all know, they aren’t, they are avoiding the main topics.
The point is the accusation that they are talking too much on say trans issues… which I find bullshit as well. IE the whole concept of harris’s campaign being woke I find ridiculous… I watched her ads, I watched her debate, I don’t recall her bringing up LGBT or Minority topics unless the interviewer/moderator specifically asked.
Totally right that those are all problems and that the Democrats should do more when in power. And while more Black and Latino people voted for trump than ever before, they still by a majority voted for Harris. And women voters of both demographics voted even more for her than men Also only 18% of those who were LGBT and voted went for Trump, a drop from 27% in 2020.
You also didn’t address the commenters point, what is Identity Politics in your meme? Just saying some minorities voted for Trump doesn’t provide rationale for your comment. What is identity politics for you?
What is identity politics for you?
As I mentioned to other commenter, running on socially progressive platform of being inclusive to women, lgbt and ethnic minorities alone is not enough to win elections, the Democratic Party also has to run on economic progressivism. As an outsider looking on previous US presidential elections, the Democratic party hasn’t really offered anything of good substance on economic issue. The $25,000 cash assistance to buy a house is a joke if people say stating to someone that making six figures is not enough to impress anyone anymore. I heard Democrats go on more on “Can you believe Trump said this!”, or “Kamala will be the first female black Indian president!” Any average voters would say “okay, we expect Trump would say and that you are black Indian female, but what are you gonna do for us with the rising cost of living?”
The current Democratic Party might be awful, but that doesn’t mean we can’t replace them with better leaders.
We need a third party.
As long as the DNC is a privately controlled political party leftists will never hold power over neoliberals or conservatives in the party.
I’m left of liberal but this is stupid. Found a new user to block.
Too realistic for you? Now we need to cut to the scene where they are selling legislation to the highest bidder in the back room.
Remind me: what was that thing that the Biden admin spent the a lot of time doing/attempting to do regarding student debt? And was it or was it not the exact thing OP’s meme claims the dems aren’t doing?
Or shall we have a look at the healthcare plan that ended up becoming Obamacare after getting nerfed a thousand times by a Republican Congress? Was that not doing something about medical bills as OP’s meme claims?
To ignore all of the stuff dems have been doing and then talk about “realistic” is… Well. It’s something.
Credit where it’s due, Biden has tried doing couple of things, but then he rolls back or limp dicking on certain things. He takes one step forward and one step back. Here is a comprehensive video explaining that his administration is half hearted when it comes to actually being progressive overall. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFi73TzEN_8
