• halyk.the.red@lemmy.ml
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    It’s an unfortunate trait of the reddit migrations. That place was crawling with die-hard liberals, not entirely dissimilar to scabies. It stands to reason a few of the uninitiated would find their way here.

    In spite of how I started this comment, we must remember that they are of the working class, and further division is a benefit exclusive to the capitalist.

    I feel that the further we sink into full-blown fascism, the more of them will become aware, and may be counted among allies one day soon.

    I plan to speak to those who are willing to listen and learn. But beware the contentious fool, ever seeking a debate but never trying for understanding.

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    Well everybody already knows that. Like… The power dynamics of “vote lesser evil, vote for minority candidate, vote for a compromising pseudo-progressive party because it’s still something, abstain and stay pure, better face true fascists than traitors, etc.” has been around since representative regimes emerged. Yet everyone has to find his/her political and moral stance in this shitshow. And answers will differ, sometimes for legitimate reasons, sometimes because of total bs. That’s all there is to it and it’s not exactly news.

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      As a trans person i am currently eating shit for breakfast every day to protect myself, my friends, and humanity. Lesser evil is starting to look like “not being murdered” sometimes

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        As a trans person, you know a lot of that was happening last year. And the year before, too, right?

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    Running a feckless campaign that refused to break with Biden’s admin on genocide is why we got this living hell. And running the most unlikeable woman in the country in 2016 is what made 2024 even a possibility.

    Dems have fucked up terribly.

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      That about sums it up.

      I’ll vote Democrat as long as the alternative is fascism.

      But fuck me, I’d love to vote for something else. And I’ll be honest, I have no idea how we get anything better.

      I hear people saying to organize, but I can’t even imagine what that takes. I wonder if most Americans feel as helpless as I do in the face of this absolute bullshit.

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        I’ll vote Democrat as long as the alternative is fascism.

        Unfortunately, much of what the Democrats represent is fascism.

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          Depends on what you mean by “much”? I’d argue the Democrats, on the whole, are liberals, not fascists.

          I’d certainly prefer progressives and leftists though.

          The support for Israel whole they genocide Palestine, thought… ugh. That can certainly be viewed as fascism, although where you draw the distinction between fascism and imperialism is up for debate. Not that imperialism is good either, just saying.

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    Obama and Biden said they’d legalize weed. They didn’t. They failed to put abortion rights into the constitution. I mean I can go on these are just off the top of my head.

    They are not immune to legit criticism, however it seems like people get the idea that if you criticize democrats that means you are a die hard Trumper or something…

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      Didn’t close gitmo. Didn’t end the war on terror. Created the same border camps democrats cry at the gates of for political points. Bailed out the perpetrators of one of this countries most high profile and damaging financial crimes because they held rich peoples stock portfolios hostage. Made pointless concessions on the ACA to republicans who never once cross the isle for even the things they want to pass because they’d rather take the credit themselves.

      Those are the ones I’m pulling off the top of my head.

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      Back up. Put abortion rights in the constitution? I cant take you seriously.

      Edit: 9 people are ignorant and need a civics lesson. Constitutional amendments were. never. on. the. table.

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    You must be on some weird ass instance. I see tons of reasonable anger at democrats and Republicans alike. I don’t see upvotes for baseless tribal click bait like this tho

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      Nah, post something to /c/memes saying the US is a fascist nation and has been so for decades, it’s upvotes galore.

      Imply the democrats have anything to do with it, and suddenly what’s the time in Moscow, how does Xi’s dick taste like, yadda yadda

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        and suddenly what’s the time in Moscow

        ah, now I get the Hexbear sidebar clock joke

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    7 months ago

    As in criticizing Democrats on their merits or criticizing Democrats as equally bad as Republicans? Big difference between the two.

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    Looook,

    We are ALL going to Hell, FAST (choose your doom(CC,WWIII,etc).

    We are all in the same car, here -like it, or not.

    One party, …I’ll let you guess which 😉, has the accelerator pinned to the mat. “We’ll be there in 5 minutes, Boys!! HELL ON EARTH HERE WE COME!”

    The other party, is simply driving at half that speed. Results are the same. They are flawed. But they CAN slow the car to give us a bit more time to “brace for impact”. But they too bought into Hell as a destination.

    But ya, we’re ALL fucked no matter how much you pledge to one party or the other. One party just whispers in your ear and it’s a bit more gentle while they fuck your already ragged ass.

    The other party just dry-humps you violently until your blood provides enough lube for them to finish while pounding their chest as you lie there, bleeding out of your ass on the nice, clean sheets.

    That about sums it up from my perspective.

    • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Depends, is it an article about Trump? Democrats are saints who can’t fail, only be failed.

      Is it an article about Democrats doing nothing that hasn’t been removed by the mods yet? You’ll probably not be downvoted for saying “Biden should have done more of his promises and getting Trump arrested should have been the priority.”

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    I downvoted. Not because you criticized democrats, but because your stupid post says you get downvoted for that. No you fucking don’t. You almost always get up voted for it. This is a garbage bait post.

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      7 months ago

      I’ve got more that were closer to the election when the politics community was still delusional about Democrats winning by ignoring core voter demands.

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        Cool. No need to look further than this post though. It’s got positive votes despite implying it should be negative. It only takes one counter-example to prove the statement wrong. It doesn’t have to be true every time.

        Yeah, sometimes it’ll get downvoted, especially if you’re a dick about it. It’s not that surprising.

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    I want to hereby thank the people who voted “third party” because “both parties are bad”. Yeah. Thanks…

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      This wasn’t a Republicans vs. Democrats election. It was Maga vs. Democracy. And people STILL voted for “something else”.

      Let’s say the people where 50/50 split. People who vote maga will 100% vote for trump. So on the other side you CANNOT vote anything else BUT Kamala. Otherwise you are only diluting her chances.

      Third has never won. And would not win this time. So by choosing third party you are enhancing Trumps chances of winning.