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andros_rex@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 1 month ago

Pope Francis was a great Christian pastor

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Pope Francis was a great Christian pastor

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      I have heard the metaphor. It’s not a term someone would use to describe the pope. It would make sense if he was referring to his local parish’s pastor. It does not make any sense for a Catholic to describe the pope this way.

      He does not talk like any Catholic I have known. I have family who are Irish Catholics who attend regularly. I have a dear friend who was really wrestling with his faith and sexuality, who chose St Francis as his patron and was a lot more eloquent than this shit. I have had discussions with actual trad caths. The person who gave me a tour of the Vatican worked for the Vatican.

      The way Vance is talking is off putting and weird, and along with basically everything else about him, indicates that he doesn’t give a shit about the religion or its beliefs. He’s like a 4chan asshole who converts because they like posting Deus Vult and “Remove Kebab” memes. Aesthetic, not substance.

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          OK? What does that mean? Heck are they Catholics from Ireland or American Roman Catholics whose ancestors cane from Ireland?

          You know diaspora is a thing, and a lot of Irish American families identify specifically as Irish Catholics?

          Also had a buddy that was actually from Ireland and raised Catholic. He was a pretty vocal atheist but also hooked me onto how lit Sinn Fein is.

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              Am I claiming a special status here?

              He does not talk like any Catholic I have known. I have family who are Irish Catholics who attend regularly.

              My claim is that he doesn’t sound like Catholics I have known, specifically the family members I have who have specific ties to both Irishness and Catholicism and identify with both, as do many members of the diaspora. (From my buddies stories about seeing things like “kill all taigs” graffiti growing up - I think there’s maybe something special about being an Irish Catholic that might merit being called an “Irish Catholic” rather than a regular one. Do the Polish American Catholics in Chicago worship at the same parishes as the Irish American ones?)

              You’re kinda galloping all over the place looking for a point to make.

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                  Are you Catholic?

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        It’s not a term someone would use to describe the pope.

        lol. You should try google sometime. Pretty sure the US Conference of Catholic Bishops would disagree…

        • https://www.usccb.org/news/2025/global-pastor-word-and-deed-pope-preached-mercy-outreach
        • https://eu.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/2025/04/21/bishop-david-ricken-remembers-pope-francis-as-strong-pastor-leader/83195098007/
        • https://www.wlky.com/article/louisville-archbishop-remembers-pope-francis-as-a-great-pastor/64542751
        • Etc, etc, etc

        He does not talk like any Catholic I have known.

        Cool story.

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