So I have to run through a check list for every single encounter I have just to not be treated like an animal. I can’t just exist and go about my life?
That’s what women apparently have to do to avoid being treated like meat. They can’t “just exist and go about [their lives],” so why do you think you should be entitled to?
If you don’t like it, help fix the root of the problem instead of bitching about your false victimhood.
Here’s a crazy idea, instead of making men suffer because women suffer, we just stop.
Well your last sentence really shows you don’t care. Let’s see how this works. If you don’t like women getting treated like meat help fix the root of the problem instead of bitching about your false victimhood. Am I doing it right? It’s this how we help each other fix problems?
Here’s a crazy idea, instead of making men suffer because women suffer, we just stop.
Of course! Women, if a strange man approaches you just say “no thank you.” Legally they cannot assault you, and it is socially unacceptable for them to do so.
Here’s a crazy idea, instead of making men suffer because women suffer, we just stop.
Okay, so how are you, personally gonna make people stop?
Or are you just going to do nothing (except attack the “uppity” women who are complaining about it) and consider it to be not your problem? 'Cause the result of that is women continuing to suffer while men enjoy privilege. It sure sounds like that’s what you actually want.
Let’s see how this works. If you don’t like women getting treated like meat help fix the root of the problem instead of bitching about your false victimhood. Am I doing it right? It’s this how we help each other fix problems?
Assuming you understand that “the root of the problem” is male aggression, yes! As I wrote a minute ago in another comment:
…the real answer is “actively work to stop other people from treating people like shit,” and even more specifically, “understand who the aggressors and victims are so you don’t make the problem worse by attacking people who are just trying to defend themselves.”
If us non-sexist/predatory men don’t want to be lumped in with the assholes, it’s our obligation to actively ally with women to stop the assholes. It doesn’t fucking matter if it’s “fair” or not; that’s just how the world works.
Or are you just going to do nothing (except attack the “uppity” women who are complaining about it) and consider it to be not your problem?
Ok.
Never once did I do this. I’ve been saying, over and over, that everyone should be treated like a human. All I can do is be the change I want to see.
You then just go on to blame men for everything. Men are the problem. Women being treated poorly, men’s fault. Men being treated poorly, men’s fault.
So women never do anything wrong and it’s all men’s fault. And I need to magically fix the whole problem or shut up and deal with being treated poorly.
You are a toxic person. You are dishonest, putting words in my mouth. You are the reason why people don’t take feminism seriously. You’re more interested in bashing men than trying to solve anything.
I’m done. I’m not going to waste my time without someone who can’t have a conversation without sarcastic attacks and lying about my actions and stances. Get blocked troll.
Take a moment and think about the consequences here for women vs the consequences for men.
Women: at risk of sexual assault in a society that down plays it, victim blames, and often fails to bring justice to the purpitrator.
Men: at risk of women giving them dirty looks.
This is like complaining about needing to ask for someone to unlock something for you because “I’m not going to steal anything, why are you treating me like a criminal?”
Never once did I do this. I’ve been saying, over and over, that everyone should be treated like a human. All I can do is be the change I want to see.
No, that’s not all you can do. Namely, you can quit pretending that the bad behavior of other men isn’t your problem if you don’t want to be lumped in with them.
You then just go on to blame men for everything. Men are the problem. Women being treated poorly, men’s fault. Men being treated poorly, men’s fault.
Yeah, that’s because it unironically is. Because in a male-dominated society men have the power and women don’t. What part of privilege and power dynamics do you not understand?
You are a toxic person. You are dishonest, putting words in my mouth. You are the reason why people don’t take feminism seriously. You’re more interested in bashing men than trying to solve anything.
You’re the toxic one here. You’re trying to DARVO the situation to make men the victims, but we’re just not.
I’m done. I’m not going to waste my time without someone who can’t have a conversation without sarcastic attacks and lying about my actions and stances. Get blocked troll.
LOL, you’re just whining because you can’t deal with having your privilege challenged.
That’s what women apparently have to do to avoid being treated like meat. They can’t “just exist and go about [their lives],” so why do you think you should be entitled to?
If you don’t like it, help fix the root of the problem instead of bitching about your false victimhood.
Who says they can’t? They should be able to.
Here’s a crazy idea, instead of making men suffer because women suffer, we just stop.
Well your last sentence really shows you don’t care. Let’s see how this works. If you don’t like women getting treated like meat help fix the root of the problem instead of bitching about your false victimhood. Am I doing it right? It’s this how we help each other fix problems?
Of course! Women, if a strange man approaches you just say “no thank you.” Legally they cannot assault you, and it is socially unacceptable for them to do so.
Problem solved!
Okay, so how are you, personally gonna make people stop?
Or are you just going to do nothing (except attack the “uppity” women who are complaining about it) and consider it to be not your problem? 'Cause the result of that is women continuing to suffer while men enjoy privilege. It sure sounds like that’s what you actually want.
Assuming you understand that “the root of the problem” is male aggression, yes! As I wrote a minute ago in another comment:
If us non-sexist/predatory men don’t want to be lumped in with the assholes, it’s our obligation to actively ally with women to stop the assholes. It doesn’t fucking matter if it’s “fair” or not; that’s just how the world works.
Ok.
Never once did I do this. I’ve been saying, over and over, that everyone should be treated like a human. All I can do is be the change I want to see.
You then just go on to blame men for everything. Men are the problem. Women being treated poorly, men’s fault. Men being treated poorly, men’s fault.
So women never do anything wrong and it’s all men’s fault. And I need to magically fix the whole problem or shut up and deal with being treated poorly.
You are a toxic person. You are dishonest, putting words in my mouth. You are the reason why people don’t take feminism seriously. You’re more interested in bashing men than trying to solve anything.
I’m done. I’m not going to waste my time without someone who can’t have a conversation without sarcastic attacks and lying about my actions and stances. Get blocked troll.
Take a moment and think about the consequences here for women vs the consequences for men.
Women: at risk of sexual assault in a society that down plays it, victim blames, and often fails to bring justice to the purpitrator.
Men: at risk of women giving them dirty looks.
This is like complaining about needing to ask for someone to unlock something for you because “I’m not going to steal anything, why are you treating me like a criminal?”
No, that’s not all you can do. Namely, you can quit pretending that the bad behavior of other men isn’t your problem if you don’t want to be lumped in with them.
Yeah, that’s because it unironically is. Because in a male-dominated society men have the power and women don’t. What part of privilege and power dynamics do you not understand?
You’re the toxic one here. You’re trying to DARVO the situation to make men the victims, but we’re just not.
LOL, you’re just whining because you can’t deal with having your privilege challenged.