• drkt
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    8 hours ago

    Brother if someone made their nudes public domain then that’s on them

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      6 hours ago

      Wow, nevermind, this is way worse than your other comment. Victim blaming and equating the law to morality, name a more popular duo with AI bros.

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        I can’t make you understand more than you’re willing to understand. Works in the public domain are forfeited for eternity, you don’t get to come back in 10 years and go ‘well actually I take it back’. That’s not how licensing works. That’s not victim blaming, that’s telling you not to license your nudes in such a manner that people can use them freely.

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          The vast majority of people don’t think in legal terms, and it’s always possible for something to be both legal and immoral. See: slavery, the actions of the third reich, killing or bankrupting people by denying them health insurance… and so on.

          There are teenagers, even children, who posted works which have been absorbed into AI training without their awareness or consent. Are literal children to blame for not understanding laws that companies would later abuse when they just wanted to share and participate in a community?

          And AI companies aren’t using merely licensed material, they’re using everything they can get their hands on. If they’re pirating you bet your ass they’ll use your nudes if they find them, public domain or not. Revenge porn posted by an ex? Straight into the data.

          So your argument is:

          • It’s legal

          But:

          • What’s legal isn’t necessarily right
          • You’re blaming children before companies
          • AI makers actually use illegal methods, too

          It’s closer to victim blaming than you think.

          The law isn’t a reliable compass for what is or isn’t right. When the law is wrong, it should be changed. IP law is infamously broken in how it advantages and gets (ab)used by companies. For a few popular examples: see how youtube mediates between companies and creators, nintendo suing everyone they can (costs victims more than it does nintendo), everything disney did to IP legislation.