it reads like an earnest response and your reply looks like an overreaction. It just looks like you might have replied to the wrong person or misinterpreted the meaning of the comment? The comment reads to me as speculating on the reason for Trump flip-flopping, not making a value judgement besides calling the trade war with china ‘dumbfuck’

I started using .ml because I like to get a variety of views and everyones propaganda for a given situation so that I can make my own critical assessment.

I do hang out in their comms and even help moderate one but I’ve pretty much only ever lurked there to get an idea for the vibes and it feels weird to be lumped in together as me representing them. Maybe if you frame it as they have an instance where they allow comments (like mine) made by reckless individuals (like me) to be made without moderation it would be more accurate.

The “answering questions” sticks out, because that’s what they’re referring to as JAQing off elsewhere- it’s not a hexbear specific term, nor is sealioning, that’s just internet slang. I didn’t see this thread posted anywhere else on hexbear to drive engagement, they just have relatively high traffic and users will be showing up in federated threads if they’re not browsing local.

I could just ignore it but I feel like that’s not the way. I don’t really feel like ceding the narrative space to them even if 99% of the people reading understand that they’re full of shit about it. I think most people have just moved on from wanting to engage with it.

I feel like this kind of tips your hand a bit for the engagement. I get the impulse to assume bad faith, I do it often and it’s something I’m working on tbh. Anyway, might be a moot point since you’re banned, I’ll get to this in the conclusion, but I think you were being overly confrontational, also going in treating this as a narrative space to be fought over going is probably why you’re going to get a response reflecting that.

It is verifiable fact that the cities in the separatist region were getting routinely shelled basically since 2014, I for one recall constantly hearing about that in that time period unless your conclusion is that they deserved it or that it was just crisis actors or some influence campaign something. Either way it’s not jingoism to express that knowledge.

It’s a common anarchist/communist position in all sorts of countries to oppose military alliances like NATO, not an example of russian jingoism- but I would also agree with their assessment that this war has been the result of a protracted civil war that’s been happening since 2014. Post 2022 is that civil war bubbling over to include Russia directly.

Forced conscription is wildly unpopular no matter where you are, it’s part of why people are opposed to wars in general. “Nazi Government that the US props up”, “pogroms” from the previous comment- I want to link here this - Ukraine Found Complicit in 2014 Massacre By European Court of Human Rights I’ve just seen too many swastikas over the last 3 years to say this is anything but an unfair assessment.

Aren’t you in favor of self-determination? I really wish things had simply de-escalated and followed that track rather than this nightmare. Anyway, none of this is jingoim.

I’m actually trying to be impartial, my takeaway is it looks like you’re just being overly antagonistic in the entire exchange. Your premise seems to be that they’re fostering an insular culture because they censor truth-speakers like yourself, let’s go back to the exchange that seemed to kick this off:

How Trump backed away from promising to end the Russia-Ukraine war in 24 hours

Ceasefires broadly speaking are going to be a process that’s going to involve violations on both sides due to all sorts of reason until the situation stabilizes, in this case via diplomatic solution hopefully.

Nakoiochi’s response is not jingoistic here either, I asked earlier in this essay if you support self-determination, you might also recognize that ‘going home’ might involve some staying to protect the separatist republics.

I frankly found your iran/north korea comment in the log very hard to parse in the first place, but I did want to raise this exchange:

I get that this was sort of a low energy back and forth jab, but the reason they clapped you was because you basically jumped to (in slightly more elegant words) saying “what are you RUSSIAN?” at someone giving you a goad, and then it kind of spiraled after.

re: calling someone Russian for naysaying you-

Among Russians, we’re not all going to have the same opinions, there’s plenty of Russians (expats in particular) who would tow a line which conforms a lot more towards yours for example. There’s no need to start calling out ethnic groups just because you feel like you’re in a propaganda space that you need to defend. That’s my read on why they responded with a ban, I will grant it’s a bit heavy handed considering it’s an offsite comment.

From what I’ve gathered in my time is there’s a lot of Americans on the site rather than Russians. They have a lot of people on the site who are more interested in curating a comfortable space rather than having an active presence in this ‘propaganda space’ and would prefer continued defederation- they said as much in the last federation referendum, I don’t think there’s a coordinated propaganda effort at play.