• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Let’s list all items that do not look like a gun during a police encounter. I’ll start:

    Small puppy Couch Basketball Bucket full of fruit Ice

    I can’t think of anymore at the moment. There’s bound to be one or two other items.

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      9 months ago

      No one has claimed it looked like a gun. He was running towards the police with a gardening hoe with a clear intention to hit him. There’s video of it in this thread. This is not an example of a police shooting an innocent person. They shot someone that was attacking them with a lethal weapon.

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        9 months ago

        Billy club, taser, or just a good old Sparta kick to the chest. If lethal force is your first instinct when a child comes at you with a stick, you should in no way be allowed to carry a weapon.

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          Now lets put you there under an attack and give you 4 seconds to decide what to do. I wanna see that Sparta kick.

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            9 months ago

            4 seconds to decide what to do.

            Isn’t that what training is for? To train the brain to react appropriately? Why do hair dressers require more training than cops?

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              The point is that it’s quite easy here to observe the video comfortably from your couch at home and with the power of hindsight ponder what they should’ve done instead. The officer being attacked here had no such luxury. This is in no way me saying that there’s zero issues on how policing is done in the US. There’s nuance to these things.

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        9 months ago

        You sure this was what set him off? You sure he didn’t hear an acorn drop?

        Either one can apparently trigger police officer Psycho Mode.

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    9 months ago

    Kid ran towards the officer with an axe, don’t run towards someone with an axe if they have a gun.

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    10 months ago

    Another child murdered.

    I will not shed a single tear for when cops get shot and killed.

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      US cops really have stored up an incredible amount of badwill, haven’t they? Now, I can’t help but see Nolan’s Batman film (whichever the one is with cops in tunnels), Brooklyn 99 and others as straight up copaganda. Just zero sympathy. The balance will shift at some point, it has to.

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        Not really. It’s just on these forums.

        As soon as you go out into the real world, you’ll see cops are people too and have about the same amount of respect as everyone else.

        First you need to go out into the real world, though.

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    9 months ago

    So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense… Do you think the criminal justice system will hand-wave it away as easily as this?

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      So if a cop, afflicted with PTSD from shooting teenagers, points a gun at me and I kill him in self-defense…

      The thing is, liberals want to see this as some kind of exercise in fairness. “Oh if can shoot me then I can shoot them!”

      No. This is a gang-violence thing. The MS-13 gang member can shoot you because he’s got a gun and years of psychological scarring and a willingness to kill to survive. You can’t shoot the gang member, because all his buddies will show up at your house, hold you down and skin your dog alive while you’re forced to watch, then bust out all your teeth and hang you out to dry as an example.

      Cops work the same way.

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    10 months ago

    Lacy said the family also reported that after the shooting, the family was forced out of the home while officers “rummaged through their house looking for any justification for shooting and killing Ryan”.

    Not a good look.

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        Edit: Ok, I read the article. Yeah, him charging at the cop with that tool was a really bad move. I still think the situation could have been handled differently. Could have.

        Tasers, batons, or just run away. Diffuse the situation. Imagine a judge saying “You charged against a cop with a gardening tool? Sentenced to DEATH!”

        The boy didn’t get a fair trial. He was murdered with no justification.

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            He was murdered, if you shoot someone in the back while they are fleeing you are a murderer.

            The cop that shot him is a murderer and a coward.

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              In this case it was the police that was fleeing and the person getting shot was chasing him with a raised gardening hoe. He could have shot him in the house the first moment he started approaching him. He didn’t. He told him to stop or they’ll shoot. He didn’t stop so the police started running away in order to avoid shooting him. He followed. Didn’t leave them much choice.

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          There was a video posted on reddit, where a cop got stabbed in the neck and died because he was slow to shoot, batons are worthless

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        … So why didn’t the officers just fucking leave the house?! There’s no reason for them to stand their ground here. Retreat to safety and call for a crisis counselor and psychiatrist to come help. Call the boy’s parents.

        Fragile masculinity is why those pussy ass cops shot a kid. I hope it tortures them for the rest of their days. And I hope whenever they see a kid with autism from here on out, they’re forced to realize what they’ve done.

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          The San Bernardino county sheriff’s department was responding to a 911 call on Saturday from a family reporting that a boy, identified as Ryan Gainer, was attacking his family at their home

          If you watch the actual video the sheriff goes into the house to find him and the teenager comes charging out trying to attack him. The officer did leave, he fled while telling him to stop. He didn’t stop and continued to chase him with the weapon and he was shot.

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            9 months ago

            That’s why they shouldn’t call the cops when a person of color is involved. The police will just kill them.

            As ADA Krause said in the Rittenhouse trial said, “We all take a beating sometimes.”