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    I wanted to visit before the collapse, but it didn’t work out for multiple reasons.

    Now I’m doubly sad that I didn’t go. Because if I would indeed decide to go now, it would be a coin toss if a random typo in some papers would land me in a gulag

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    Those charts are soon going to look a lot worse. I know of many people who had already paid for their vacation before the tariffs were announced, so they went anyway. New bookings for flights from Canada to the U.S. are down over 70%.

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      Yeah I think so too.
      People have always talked about a long weekend in New York or a cruise from Miami.
      Now it’s just dead. No mention of the US at all, other than the blithering baboon.

      Would not want to be a trans atlantic airliner this sunmer

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        At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if you are trans-atlantic, their DEI policy mistakes this for something LGBT-related and you face automatic detention.

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    I won’t set foot on US soil again as long as Trump or any other conservative is running this country.

    It’s not even just about how you get shafted at the border nowadays. I simply don’t want to visit a country that is ruled by misanthropic fascists.

    And I think that many people will probably feel the same way.

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          Russia is full of cool architecture and art.

          But fuck the current (last 25 years) regime with a rusty crowbar. I’m not stepping a single foot in there.

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    I don’t blame anyone, there is no need to personally see the circus that is our country currently. Watch the circus from stands unless you want to be a part of it.

  • I don’t blame any non-American for staying out of the insanity soup going on here.

    Even as a middle age, “white privilege” guy, I’m concerned about traveling outside the U.S. and coming back through immigration. I’m liberal, protester, and strongly anti-Maga on the socials.

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      i’m currently in the US supporting a queer minority group with services to provide access to an event to a global audience… i’ve done it every year, and this year i’m here only because i’d promised and it seems awful to that group to walk away

      next year is going to be really hard: my presence here adds value to the economy and in some small way takes away from the boycott, helps to reinforce american centrism and gives advantage to US citizens (they can attend far easier, etc), not to mention im literally taking a risk that i could be detained for weeks and then banned from coming back

      … but on the other hand, if i don’t come am i abandoning the community? am i abandoning a vulnerable group that needs support, and to be shown they’re not alone now more than ever? that globally, queer is normal, fine, valued - that they’re wanted and what’s happening is not normal

      i hate that im having to make these choices, and i hate that i feel bad even for feeling conflicted when im not even living through it

      • IMO: you are tremendously more vulnerable than I am.

        If you can leave the U.S. into a stable “home base”, you absolutely should.

        From there you can try to use any open source Social groups to continue protesting against Trump.

        Protect yourself above all else. Unless you’ve reached a point in your own “circle of life” that you’re willing to die for the insanity of America’s shit storm.

        I’m at the age and experience I’m willing to die in defense of kind humanity vs. whatever the fuck is imploding in the U.S.

        Best of luck!

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    no shit, dont want to have some border police going through my phone and putting me on detention only to deport me back later

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      If you’re lucky you’ll be deported back to your own country.

      I don’t blame a single person for not wanting to tour the US ATM.

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    I’m worried of traveling outside of the US because that means I have to come back in through the borders again and be subjected to invasive searches

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    Admittedly surprised. I thought it would be like the Bush years when they proclaimed their distaste of the US while still dreaming about living/visiting places like New York and LA.

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    European tourism to the USA in free fall

    That is what you get when you transport your tourism in a Boeing plane.

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    I’m an American who has traveled to Europe a few times since Trump. I talked with a few Europeans about our president and all but one were not shy about disliking Trump. The only exception was a polish man who honestly seemed like not the greatest guy. MRA type from my interactions with him. Trump is more unhinged than ever so I wouldn’t travel here. I absolutely think about the politics of a place and how it could contribute to things going wrong when I travel abroad, so I get it

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      I was in a train lately and there was this really loud American tourist going on about why Trump was amazing. Everytime the train stopped the person he was talking to coincedently had to exit the train, he continued his ‘conversation’ with the next person near him like a drunk in a bar looking for some company I guess. Let me mention I know there are plenty of Americans who don’t think or act this way, before people reply about this. What I want to point out people here would openly talk about politics to strangers, but much they’re much less willing to get in to an argument with a stranger that has opposing political views whether that stranger is a tourist or not. Just saying because this because it’s easier then ever to start believing the world agrees with you. There are a lot of people in Europe who liked trump before he started to make enemies with his allies.

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        Yeah, as you probably know that was a rare person. Firstly, trump support was just high enough to win elections in this fucked system. Then most trumpers would barely engage much even if you asked. Further still, they’re not usually the travelling type. Sorry you had the misfortune of suffering through that dullard. Most people oppose him here. Voter suppression and the electoral college are the only reason those fucks can win

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      Thank you! As confusing and scary as it is for us in the rest of the world, it must be positively terrifying for someone who’s not a hardcore MAGA to see this happening to your country.
      And with the rise of the far right, following much of the same playbook in many of our countries, this is unfortunately less about Trump being personally unhinged and more about all of us trying to rediscover why our grandfather fought to defend our democracy, before it’s too late.

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        I appreciate your empathy and recognition of what is happening. It definitely is not okay. It is very scary that people are still taking a look at an end goal and then allowing the means to be okay no matter what :'(

        You’re right about this:

        more about all of us trying to rediscover why our grandfather fought to defend our democracy, before it’s too late.

        My grandfather just died a couple of years ago at age 100. He fought the fucking Nazis – lost teeth and most of his hearing in the war, and he was very lucky (as am I, to consequently exist). I never asked if or how many of them he killed, but I have to hope and imagine it was at least a few.

        I wish we could all agree that power grabs and scapegoating minorities are never okay, and get back to yelling about what healthcare we should have. It was bad enough when one side was saying anything but the current US healthcare system is socialism and evil, but now we have people in Congress who routinely lie and spout bullshit conspiracy theories to push their agendas. The fact that in our presidential campaign, people let it fucking fly that Vance and Trump both lied their asses off, knowingly, about Haitians eating dogs and how that’s a threat to everyone, is horrific news.