Must be hard simply being a fiscal conservative in the Conservative party right now seeing the social conservatives botching all the good publicity the party could possibly have had left.
However, I follow that up very quickly with the fact that investing in health, education, science, and affordable housing is net profit and any true fiscal conservative would want to direct as much of our money as needed into these programs, because penny for penny the returns on such investments are huge
A homeless person ending up in a hospital bed or dying costs us substantially more money than housing them, and once they get treated, fed, upskilled, and a roof over their head they very often proceed to turn into another taxpaying citizen which in turn converts red numbers into green numbers.
Anyone who just looks at the numbers can clearly see its basically just free money for taxpayers, you’d have to either be a complete idiot to not invest in it… or purposefully hateful and want people to suffer
I assume most “conservative” people are the latter, they genuinely cant wrap their head around the fact that making marginalized groups suffer costs taxpayers a lot of money
Police cost money, city cleanup costs money, hospitals and doctors cost money, handling corpses costs money, and of course you lose all the opportunity cost of -1 fellow taxpayer.
“Conservatives” tend to just not grok the fact that a large chunk of homeless people could easily be more taxpayers, but they just would rather demonize them and spend more money hurting them, thinking somehow that will magically make the issue go away, and ignore the fact it makes it worse, its so dumb.
Same goes for things like allowing abortion, at its core abortion rights inherently save such enormous magnitudes of money long term, and net profit. Forcing mothers to conceive doesnt fuckin help anyone and instead just costs us huge amounts of money, all just to inflict suffering on others. It’s hateful and petty and extremely wasteful.
Same goes for trans rights, the most cost effective and safest way to treat trans folks is just provide them with medical intervention to align their body with their gender. It’s by far the most cost effective solution, but for some fuckin reason “conservatives” would rather people suffer than save money
“Conservatives” straight up would rather spend billions of dollars hurting people than actually save money. Very stupid, and I hate how when I talk about actually being truly fiscally conservative, I get associated with such idiots.
You identify with the term fiscal conservative, but in practice, everything you advocate is straight up liberal. It proves the point that the term is meaningless. Everyone wants to spend efficiently, it’s just the priorities that distinguish conservative from liberal.
I hold that liberal goes beyond that, starting to spend extra money and tax extra when the returns are no longer as good and instead it’s less about literally saving money and more about quality of life
Fiscal conservative is “once the returns aren’t as good, stop there”
Whereas liberal goes “nah even if the returns start to suck, it’s better to further tax to even further help people purely for ethical reasons”
Liberal mindset is ethics > money
Fiscal conservative is money > ethics
Current “conservative” policy though is power > inflicting suffering > money > ethics
Which I respect and I’d love to get us towards, but tbh we gotta convince people to get past step 1 first of realizing spending money to actively hurt people, surprisingly, isn’t a good fiscal policy (which somehow genuinely confuses so many people, it’s crazy)
We are still at the stage where too many people think that spending money inflicting active harm is genuinely a good idea and a good use of taxpayer dollars
They think paying cops to go around kicking indigenous teens in the head is truly a solid Fiscal policy. Truly.
They think paying money to fund bombs being dropped on children is good Fiscal policy.
They think paying money to poison our water, destroy our ecosystems, and pollute the oceans is good Fiscal Policy
Getting past that part is step one
Literally just convincing these people to stop stabbing themselves is step 1.
Maybe later we can talk about convincing them to help others after we get them to stop hurting others…
Must be hard simply being a fiscal conservative in the Conservative party right now seeing the social conservatives botching all the good publicity the party could possibly have had left.
There is no such thing as a “Fiscal Conservative”. They all hold the same values, the smart ones just know not to say it out loud.
I classify myself as Fiscally Conservative.
However, I follow that up very quickly with the fact that investing in health, education, science, and affordable housing is net profit and any true fiscal conservative would want to direct as much of our money as needed into these programs, because penny for penny the returns on such investments are huge
A homeless person ending up in a hospital bed or dying costs us substantially more money than housing them, and once they get treated, fed, upskilled, and a roof over their head they very often proceed to turn into another taxpaying citizen which in turn converts red numbers into green numbers.
Anyone who just looks at the numbers can clearly see its basically just free money for taxpayers, you’d have to either be a complete idiot to not invest in it… or purposefully hateful and want people to suffer
I assume most “conservative” people are the latter, they genuinely cant wrap their head around the fact that making marginalized groups suffer costs taxpayers a lot of money
Police cost money, city cleanup costs money, hospitals and doctors cost money, handling corpses costs money, and of course you lose all the opportunity cost of -1 fellow taxpayer.
“Conservatives” tend to just not grok the fact that a large chunk of homeless people could easily be more taxpayers, but they just would rather demonize them and spend more money hurting them, thinking somehow that will magically make the issue go away, and ignore the fact it makes it worse, its so dumb.
Same goes for things like allowing abortion, at its core abortion rights inherently save such enormous magnitudes of money long term, and net profit. Forcing mothers to conceive doesnt fuckin help anyone and instead just costs us huge amounts of money, all just to inflict suffering on others. It’s hateful and petty and extremely wasteful.
Same goes for trans rights, the most cost effective and safest way to treat trans folks is just provide them with medical intervention to align their body with their gender. It’s by far the most cost effective solution, but for some fuckin reason “conservatives” would rather people suffer than save money
“Conservatives” straight up would rather spend billions of dollars hurting people than actually save money. Very stupid, and I hate how when I talk about actually being truly fiscally conservative, I get associated with such idiots.
You identify with the term fiscal conservative, but in practice, everything you advocate is straight up liberal. It proves the point that the term is meaningless. Everyone wants to spend efficiently, it’s just the priorities that distinguish conservative from liberal.
I hold that liberal goes beyond that, starting to spend extra money and tax extra when the returns are no longer as good and instead it’s less about literally saving money and more about quality of life
Fiscal conservative is “once the returns aren’t as good, stop there”
Whereas liberal goes “nah even if the returns start to suck, it’s better to further tax to even further help people purely for ethical reasons”
Liberal mindset is ethics > money
Fiscal conservative is money > ethics
Current “conservative” policy though is power > inflicting suffering > money > ethics
Which I respect and I’d love to get us towards, but tbh we gotta convince people to get past step 1 first of realizing spending money to actively hurt people, surprisingly, isn’t a good fiscal policy (which somehow genuinely confuses so many people, it’s crazy)
We are still at the stage where too many people think that spending money inflicting active harm is genuinely a good idea and a good use of taxpayer dollars
They think paying cops to go around kicking indigenous teens in the head is truly a solid Fiscal policy. Truly.
They think paying money to fund bombs being dropped on children is good Fiscal policy.
They think paying money to poison our water, destroy our ecosystems, and pollute the oceans is good Fiscal Policy
Getting past that part is step one
Literally just convincing these people to stop stabbing themselves is step 1.
Maybe later we can talk about convincing them to help others after we get them to stop hurting others…