What the actual fuck. They never learn.
Never get tired of losing
Sure, let’s do the same stupid shit again and expect different results.
Who?
Seriously. I haven’t seen a word from her since she lost. Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren, Katie Porter, and of course AOC are posting and speaking publicly every day. Katie’s running for governor of California and I will give her my vote when the time comes.
The DNC clearly has its head up somewhere dark and damp. Harris’s campaign went flat as soon as they got involved.
I like Harris just fine and she would have been a far better president than Donnie, but this is how JD Vance becomes President.
Bold to assume Trump 3 doesn’t happen.
lol
So, they prove once again that they don’t learn.
Mmore proof the neo liberal democratic party is a controlled opposition party who bows to the will of the same Wall Street military and prison industry profiteers that guide the policies of the right. Trump is going to be handed another 4 years after they repeal the 22nd amendment. this country is a fascist hellscape
Please don’t.
no just no no no please god no
What the fuckkkkk
No they fucking haven’t.
I don’t know who they’re polling to come up with that trash. Dems didn’t turn out for her in 2024 because she had no answers on the economy, and refused to admit Israel was genociding Palestinians, so they sure as shit aren’t going to turn up for her in 2028–if there’s even an election in 2028–when she still won’t have any answers about the economy–which will likely be in full depression territory by then–and all she’ll be able to do with Israel is say, "well, it’s too late, all the Palestinians have been genocided, oh well).
Mind if I ask a question? Did you vote for her?
Yes. I voted for her because there was no other viable option. Claiming that she’s the best choice in primaries, for a 2028 presidential run is absolute nonsense. Running her again would be beyond stupid; it would be like running Clinton (Hilary, not Bill) a second time.
Fuck sake, get someone that’s a charismatic populist running on messages of, “hell yes, we’re going to tax the shit out of billionaires, we’re going to tax them until they’re millionaires”, with expansion of gov’t services and de-privatization as major platform planks. Dems need a Project 2028 that lays all of this shit out on an eyes-only basis so they can get the majority of it through in the first 4 months, too. Not just unwinding the damage that Trump has done to the federal bureaucracy, but EXPANDING it, and hardening it against any future interference from the executive branch.
The pool wasn’t about general election. It’s about primaries. Insane as it is, it’s all about name recognition. People in US will simply vote for the one person they heard about. But it’s still early, other candidates still have time to get their name out there.
No we fucking didn’t. She can’t win a primary against sanders.
Bernie Sanders is 83. He won’t be running in the Presidential primaries.
Never say never, but aoc might. And she’s lib enough to win over most dems.
It’s hard to imagine a majority of white voters supporting AOC. Obama managed win two elections despite 43% and 39% of the white vote due to strong PoC voter turnout but I doubt that would play out well in the current political climate. AOC would be even more divisive, in a way, by being a woman.
The problem with clinton an harris was not that they were women, for fucks sake. Clinton is a racist ghoul that spent her career, at best, advocating against the working class. Even if she could differentiate herself from her husband, which she never even tried to, she’s still a racist conservative whose entire messaging was that she was owed a ‘turn’ as president.
And harris was a right wing genocidal cop.
The problem is not that these evil people are women, it’s that they have no differentiating factors from 1990s republicans. And dems want nonrepublican candidates, not old republican candidates.
Sure but even Obama, who did not have to deal with gender based prejudice and was generally a well liked populist, could not pull a majority of the white vote. A lot of white voters just could not bring themselves to trust him because he looked different and had a different name. It’s incredible he ever got elected.
Identity politics are baked into American culture unfortunately and I wonder if a female PoC has a real shot with where things are now. If they do, other PoC would really have to show up for them, like they did for Obama.
Obama was also 16 years ago and a plurality of rep voters since that time, in the specific demo you mention, have long since died.
Racism is absolutely alive and thriving, don’t get me wrong, but if montana can elect a trans person and most the south have black members in their state congresses for the first time since jim crow, it’s not as big an issue as it once was.
What unifies left and right voters is talk of focusing on the working class, acknowledging their struggle, and presenting some plan. It doesn’t even have to be good as we’ve seen from trump’s first election. You just have to not be a fucking snob.
And guess who is great at messaging that vibe while having been put down by right wing media for being too working class? AOC.
She’s left wing enough to energize disillusioned leftie votes, she’s young enough to energize disillusioned youth votes, she’s right wing enough to not scare off conservatives, and she’s working class enough to connect with dissimilar working class voters. Add on to the constant stories of trumps ineptitude even being pushed by right wing media and you have the perfect answer to her inexperience.
If the dems want to have the slightest chance of winning, she’s the only candidate with enough name recognition to come close to winning. If they run yet another career politician or corrupt cop, they want to lose, simple as that.
Hmmm perhaps the Latino vote could play a big role in her support, potentially tipping it in her favor if she did run for the presidency. Still I get it, it’s a long shot.
Im hoping the run walz and AOC. Before they gagged him he was getting dem voters energized in the way that trump is able to do with his cult. and AOC is doing really good things all around the country.
More than anything just not fucking newsom that is the one dem I will not vote for even if trump is running a third time because I think he would keep doing the same exact shit that trump is doing under the guise of meeting in the middle.
I’d trust Bernie at 95 wayyyy more than trump at any age
Fuck no get someone younger. Enough with the senior citizens running the country.
Both the Dems and Republicans have failed us…Maybe we should start looking to a third party that actually cares about the people.
Are you fucking kidding me.
AOC and Bernie over here amassing entire legions of working class people and they’re over here bashing themselves in the nuts. doing a straw poll with corporate doners pretending like it means fucking ANYTHING.
GODAMNIT THESE FUCKING DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING MORONS.
Perhaps time for a third party…
The problem is that I don’t know how you’d get a third party off the ground. Modern third parties all seem to fall into the trap of going all in on a presidential at the expense of any potential down ballot races.
I think Bernie’s suggestion of progressives running as independent is an interesting angle as it would be focused on down ballot races by its nature, and if you get enough independent progressives, they could coalesce into a new party down the line.
There’s also the blockade that both established parties put up, as they very much enjoy their exclusive duopoly.
Running Kamala Harris is a good start!
