• Sturgist@lemmy.ca
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    1 day ago

    So the Tankie Triad is:

    Edit: The trouble is that, as far as I know, there’s currently no way as a user to block an entire instance. You can play whack-a-/C and block communities as you bump into them. The other option is to look for instances that have de-federated from these instances, and make a new account on one of those instances.

    As @Samskara@sh.itjust.works pointed out, instance blocking is possible:

    You can block instances in your settings. For your instance, that’s lemmy.ca/settings then selects blocks and add the instances you want to block

    Are there other servers which amplify problematic content?

    There’s a lot more than the 3 listed above, the ones I listed are militant in their belief that Russia and China are Marxist-Leninist utopias. There’s some communities and users across all the instances that are problematic. If you see something you don’t like, block the user or community.

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      I’m seeing a lot of people call Hexbear a tankie instance lately - they aren’t really though, they are an instance full of trolls who are militant against any belief system at all (most especially their own?), or as near to that as makes no difference. They constantly lie - most especially to one another, and have even been caught lying to other instance admins.

      I would lump Hexbear in under a name like The Big Three (to block), but I just thought I’d point out that many people are going to argue at its being called specifically a “tankie” one. And ofc it’s more than just these three - e.g. Midwest.social has been caught in numerous scandals as well, though unlike the Big Three, the actual users there are perfectly fine, so I don’t advocate for blocking it, just avoiding the communities there.

      Speaking of, the Lemmy “instance blocking” would have been much better named as a “community mute”, since it allows you to see the users from that instance, and they can vote on and reply to your content, triggering notifications, etc. The only real way to do an actual instance block is to move to an instance that has defederated from it (requires admin rights), or use PieFed that can implement a true user block from any instance you ask for (no admin approval necessary), or the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect can likewise do that.

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      Hey, real quick, nobody thinks the Russian Federation is somehow still Marxist, the Soviet Union was dissolved in the 90s and Marxism went with it. Further, China is not a “Utopia,” it is Marxist-Leninist but it’s in the early stages of Socialism, and the Russian Federation is far worse off under Capitalism.

      If you want to correct your blurb, that would be far more accurate.

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      There’s a lot more than the 3 listed above, the ones I listed are militant in their belief that Russia and China are Marxist-Leninist utopias.

      1. Hexbear hates Russia. They call Putin a fascist dictator / capitalist all the time.

      2. No one on Hexbear calls Russia or China a Marxist utopia. Pointing out that the CCP is using their power to build highspeed rail, nuclear energy, tons of public housing, and huge solar projects might seem like glazing, but I think those projects are worthy of praise. If the US built 40000km of highspeed rail, entire cities of public housing, tons of clean nuclear power plants, etc then I would be overjoyed to praise my country for doing something good.

      3. Supporting genocide is true tankieism. Anyone who isn’t critical of the US’s funding of genocide or the military industrial complex are the true tankies.

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        Splitting hairs is what tankies do when they get called out for their bullshit. Also giving bullet point lists that are thinly veiled propaganda and are exhausting to debunk.

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        Just want to add, the CPC is Marxist and is working off of Marxist economics. Their party ideology is Marxism-Leninism Xi Jinping Thought, which is Marxism-Leninism applied to modern China’s conditions and under Xi Jinping.

        Now, that doesn’t mean it’s some Utopia, and that also doesn’t mean it’s a far-future Communist society, just that they are in the early stages of Socialism.

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          How does the Tienanmen Square massacre fit into Marxism-Leninism ideology?

          And who wrote about this “stage” of Marxist-Leninism that makes capitalism is legal and labour unions are illegal? Would that be the ruling party that’s dominated by billionaires?

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      There doesn’t seem to be a way to block all users of an instance though unfortunately. You can still see posts and comments they make on other instances

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        Whack-a-mole sadly, but I will say that not every user on an instance you don’t want to interact with is necessarily going to be promoting content that you find objectionable.

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          True, but those users on the Big Three are fairly reputable for being contentious. So much so that merely blocking Hexbear alone will improve someone’s experience on the Fediverse by ~90%, and then if you are able to block Lemmy.ml (most people using Lemmy cannot, not truly) then that improves it by a still further 90%.

          Put another way, yes it blocks too much - that much is sadly true - however when the vast majority of the most batshit insane comments that one sees across the entire Fediverse comes from a user on one of the Big Three instances, then rather than leave the Fediverse entirely to get away from such, it makes a helluva lot of sense to just block users from those instances (which again, most people on Lemmy really can’t do, without going to extreme measures).

          It’s like email spam: what legitimate content are you willing to give up in order to block the vast majority of incoming stuff that you don’t want to see? There’s enough leftover after blocking it out, at least for me and many others say the same. It does kinda suck for users on those instances, but like… at this point it’s very well known, and they’ve made their choice, so now all that remains is for me to make mine, and my preferences - to avoid nonconsensual insanity thrown at me relentlessly from an instance that not only fails to discourage such but sometimes actively encourages it - should be able to matter too!