Summary

According to the Telegraph, a leaked confidential Trump peace plan delivered to President Zelenskyy has caused panic in Kyiv.

The proposal would grant the U.S. half of revenues from Ukraine’s resource extraction and licensing, effectively amounting to economic colonization.

The Telegraph noted, “Trump’s demands would amount to a higher share of Ukrainian GDP than reparations imposed on Germany at the Versailles Treaty, later whittled down at the London Conference in 1921, and by the Dawes Plan in 1924.”

Simultaneously, the plan would absolve Russia for its invasion that has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

  • MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
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    Sincerely, thank you for specifying the State religion of evangelical “Supply Side Jesus” as its own evil cult, and not alienating the rest of us who stand with you. I always appreciate that nuance in this kind of discourse.

    There’s a lot of Christians here, myself included, horrified by every second of this, watching people calling themselves “christians” give themselves over willingly to corruption and sheer evil and unfiltered hatred at an alarming rate.

    Of course we’re silenced on many fronts: Most of the money for churches comes from powerful americultist organizations and donors, who are obviously in the angry orange baby Hitler’s pocket, and they’re seeding such hateful polarization that even leftists are turning on us and discounting us outright.

    We’re not as loud, well-funded, or numerous as the cult of hatred and warmongering and greed. But we know that the Jesus of the Gospel who commanded us to “Love thy neighbor as thyself” is not the Jesus of the State, and to throw one’s lot in with these politicians is to deliberately side with the legions of Hell.

    I am heartbroken and ashamed at how many people I once thought good and decent, who have fallen for this lie and follow such a disgraceful monster.

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      The percent of US Christians and veterans who picked Cheeto exceed 60% both groups should properly classed as nazis and traitors.

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        Yes, but don’t go full nazi yourself. Otherwise you’re just responding to one holocaust with demands for another.

        Christianity isn’t what’s pure evil, it’s extremism that is evil. That can come from any ideology, just add “kill your neighbour for making things less the way you want them to be”.

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          Christianity IS evil. Whilst the possibly mythic progenitor of the religion is supposed to be good its been broadly responsible for many evil acts and given a chance couldn’t even speak out against actual Hitler until after he was defeated and dead.

          It’s not “full nazi” whatever that means in this context to have an accurate understanding that certain groups are not in any way on the right side of things. Some individuals might be but those groups as a whole are on the side of power. They’ve always been on the side of power. They have never been on the whole or on average good people.

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            It’s full nazi to kill people for what they believe. If you think Christianity is evil, then everything is evil because nothing is perfect. Christianity is not perfect, not objectively good and not more than an ideology no matter what it’s followers claim. That does not mean you get to go around killing people solely because you believe they’re evil. YOU’RE evil. You also aren’t being logical or reasonable, so take your jackass atheist self with delusions that everyone should have to face oblivion instead of SOME FORM of afterlife, and go fuck yourself.

            I am transhumanist, not Christian, but I understand fear of death and always will. If you refuse to accept that it is NATURAL and OKAY to want to live forever, to try and stay as young as you feel forever, then I am done. Go away, or I’ll make you so fucking miserable you’ll beg for death. I’m done negotiating with the species that always found a reason to hate me since 2017.

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      I grew up Christian, and denounced it all at age 15 for atheism. Later, I ended up becoming very spiritual (but not religious, more like Taoist/Buddhist). That’s when I started to realize there are nuances like this.

      Admittedly, I almost did write down Christian, but I changed it 'cause of exactly what you say. It isn’t fair to the actual Christ-like that exist out there, and it’s not only Christian denominations behaving this way.

      It sucks that religion in general is being used by the vile controllers to manipulate, and I wish there were more folks like you that actually questioned things and lifted the veil for themselves. Seems to me that, at least southern baptists, are practically trained to never question authority and always take information at face value if the person giving that information simply claims they are Christian. Same people believe that you should keep sex and drug information from your children, instead of preparing them for the good and bad of each they may encounter in the world.

      I am heartbroken and ashamed at how many people I once thought good and decent, who have fallen for this lie and follow such a disgraceful monster.

      Yea… it especially sucks when its your parents. We used to do fun things together, now I have to hide everything about who I am.