• RainfallSonata@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    ELI5:. Why is it “cheating” for the Chinese government to subsidize its auto industry, when the US government subsidizes everything from corn to coal?

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      9 months ago

      The main difference lies in the scale, structure, and purpose of the subsidies. China’s subsidies to its EV industry are often larger (though per capita math may need to apply) and more targeted, aimed at rapidly developing a domestic EV market and fostering specific national champions in the industry.

      Subsidies in the US and other nations are generally more diverse, targeting various interrelated industries and are driven by generalized policy objectives, such as promoting innovation or creating jobs.

      Chinese subsidies and centralized policies can lead to market distortion, unfair competition, and an adverse impact on global trade through multiple mechanisms:

      –Subsidies incentivize overproduction, leading to excess capacity in the market. This excess supply results in lower prices for Chinese EVs, undercutting competitors in other markets. When Chinese manufacturers sell their EVs abroad at prices below production costs (dumping), it can harm domestic manufacturers in those countries and distort global trade. Once domestic manufacturing becomes irreparably harmed, a reliance may form on Chinese manufacturing instead.

      –Chinese policies often require foreign companies to transfer technology or form joint ventures with domestic partners to access the Chinese market. This leads to concerns about intellectual property rights and fair competition, as foreign companies may be compelled to share proprietary technology with Chinese partners.

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        9 months ago

        When Chinese manufacturers sell their EVs abroad at prices below production costs (dumping)

        This is outright false considering EVs made in China are sold overseas at usually twice what it is sold in China.

        For example the Kia EV5 is sold at $20k in China while the same made in China model is sold overseas Starting at $46k

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        8 months ago

        From what I hear about Chinese EVs as well is that their quality leaves a lot to be desired. Numerous reports of cars catching fire.