• Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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      10 months ago

      You want to tell me this is not the western colonizers fault and the poor people of the east are not the victims in this? That’s outrageous.

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        10 months ago

        🙄👌👍

        It’s amazing watching the contortionist path you people take to blame every damn problem on the planet on “the west”.

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            10 months ago

            Meh, the /s is very much a real person here on lemmy. If that’s /s I don’t think they’ve seen the hardliner commies on here.

          • naught@sh.itjust.works
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            10 months ago

            The CIA installed a religious zealot dictator… idk why you’re being downvoted lol. Let’s all just pretend the CIA hasn’t been fucking up democratically elected governments for almost a century

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              10 months ago

              Because 40 years have passed without direct intervention in their government and they’re just as bad. Will you still blame the west for Iranian oppression in 50 years? 80? 100?

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                10 months ago

                It depends! Obviously the US isn’t entirely at fault. After our shenanigans there was like permanent war in the region (also mostly the US) which never helps. The destabilizing effects are still present and can be traced back to the US in no small part.

                Slavery was outlawed over 100 years ago in the US yet we are still dealing with the ramifications. Stuff doesn’t just happen in a vacuum

                edit: I should also note the US propped up a dictator who was corrupt and overthrown by religious zealots. They have been ruled by extremists ever since. It seems like a direct connection to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  10 months ago

                  All I know is that at some point, it goes from a valid criticism to a way to attack the US without giving ANY agency to the bad actors in Iran who have been far worse than the shah. Many many Iranians in Iran at this point consider the US and Israel allies in opposition. Downvote me straight to hell but it’s a fact.

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            10 months ago

            Oh! So after forty years, it’s still the west’s fault? How many decades pass before a culture gets to own its own shitty behaviour?