• RawrGuthlaf@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    A large chunk of the population gets their info from Fox News and News Max etc. Many of my extended family unfortunately. They think that is reliable information and can’t be convinced otherwise. When I try to bring up facts they give me this look like I’m the crazy one spreading the lies. It’s a really sad state of affairs, they are genuinely good people otherwise. I think there are too many assumptions that people just wanted what we’re about to get.

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      6 hours ago

      Sorry no. If they voted for trump they’re not good people. They’re either assholes or too stupid to be making decisions for the country.

      Anyone who votes for mass deportation is not a good person. Anyone who votes to take away health care from a huge chunk of the population is also not a good person.

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        5 hours ago

        It’s an environment issue for them, their belief system and past experiences shape their decisions. The DNC had opportunities for real change and did not take them, and that feeds into the establishment/ “drain the swamp” rhetoric. Calling people stupid isn’t going to help anything, they are heavily misinformed and tuned out living in a busy world. I don’t give them a full pass here, but if we’re going to change anything we need to figure out how to communicate with this segment and recognize their grievances.

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          Thing is, normalizing stupidity and shitiness doesn’t help anything either. It actively makes things worse. I don’t know what the actual answer is to improving things with that kind of person though. I just think pretending that being a shitbag is acceptable behavior ain’t it.

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          Nah. They got themselves into that information bubble because it validated and made them feel ok with their misogyny, their xenophobia, their general bigotry. If you watch just a little Fox, Infowars, Rogan and decide, “hey, this is good stuff and deserving of my attention”, you weren’t a good person to begin with.