• selokichtli@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Maybe a lot of Democrats also dislike women in power and black people. Maybe the American people, regardless of the party they say they support, are still very conservative. This is not an unpopular opinion outside the USA.

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      2 months ago

      Yes. That is the ultimate conclusion for me as well. The American people voted for racism and sexism, because they are racist and sexist. America can’t do better because this is the best we have. Trump represents conservatives. It’s really confusing because his actions aren’t conservative… but here we are.

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        2 months ago

        This is the best we have

        The best America can do is fucking awful. It’s been this way for years. We elected Bush II twice. We elected Reagan twice. We elected Nixon twice. It’s always been a shitty country filled with terrible people.

        I’d like to say I’m glad other people are starting to realize something I’ve known for years, but people are going to get hurt because “patriotic liberals” didn’t have the courage to admit we’re the shithole country.

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        2 months ago

        I don’t think it’s that simple, but it’s understandable to think like this just the next morning after such a defeat.

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      Nah. Trump got fewer votes (when you account for the ~4% population growth since the 2020 election) than last time, while Dems lost a fuckton of votes, compared to 2020.

      Trump won, both the election, and the popular vote, not because he got Dems to vote for him, but because a dozen million Dems decided not to vote at all.

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        2 months ago

        You are saying, in other words, that a black woman with indian ancestry and an exemplary career in the government was not enough incentive to go vote for self-perceived progressive people? That was actually my point.

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            Honestly, yeah. She’s been in government positions for decades and hasn’t had any real scandals. The worst thing I heard was that when she was a DA, her department worked with the local police, and the police department had a lab tech that was stealing cocaine and was testing the product at work several times. And a judge scolded the police department and DA office for not doing a better job handling that issue.

            She had a pretty decent record of good morals and making effective, positive changes. Unless there’s someone I haven’t heard

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            Exemplary. Not saying she excelled at everything, but she had several responsibilities in different levels of government and never was impeached or tried for anything related to her work. Lol.

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        a dozen million Dems decided not to vote at all.

        Maybe. Some things just don’t add up. Historic number of bullet ballots and Democrats winning in down-ballot races where Kamala lost, not to mention the rampant voter disenfranchisement and vote challenges that threw thousands of ballots out. Don’t forget Musk buying votes in Pennsylvania and spending a quarter of a billion dollars on the election.

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      Honestly, yeah, there would have to be a decent amount of them with almost 20 million voters who didn’t show up to vote.