• x00z@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    41
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    10 days ago

    Why don’t you guys start a revolution against first-past-the-post? Fascism has far less power that way.

    • BigBenis@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      61
      ·
      10 days ago

      We had ranked-choice-voting at the State level on the ballot here in Oregon and voters rejected it by about 60%.

      • w3dd1e@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        edit-2
        10 days ago

        Same in my state. I voted against the amendment that banned it but I actually didn’t fully realize it was about ranked choice voting until I checked results. I hate that shit. It makes me so angry.

        • GladiusB@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          10 days ago

          I don’t know why you are getting down voted. It’s who beat them. White guys came out and voted it out.

          • Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            10 days ago

            I think both parties that have power right now are opposed to RCV because it makes their job harder - they would have to be For something rather than just Against they opponent

    • meliaesc@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      35
      ·
      10 days ago

      Unfortunately only the calm and sane people are upset, and it’s harder to whip us into a full revolution.

      • pinkystew@reddthat.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        ·
        10 days ago

        The elites have been studying for decades. They now know exactly how far they can push us before we fight back. That’s why inequality is worse now than before the French revolution, but nothing has changed. They’ve learned how to prevent us from revolting.

    • bishbosh@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      9 days ago

      If we are at the point of solution by revolution, I think our aims should be higher than just first past the post…

    • aesthelete@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      10 days ago

      Surely all of the revolutionaries online dissuading people from voting Harris will kick into gear and get everyone motivated to change the constitution, fix the electoral system, eliminate capitalism, and obtain gay space communism for all.

              • danciestlobster@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                9 days ago

                The left endlessly quibbling with each other with definitely not get us there or anywhere. Your beef is with the idiotic trump voters, not people further left than Kamala

                • aesthelete@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  9 days ago

                  My beef is with purported leftists online that did their damnedest to dissuade people from voting at all.

                  • danciestlobster@lemm.ee
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    9 days ago

                    Well if you want anything to get better you need to find common ground with those people and have a united front against facism. Even if you don’t like or agree with them.

                    The reality is, some people struggled to vote for Kamala, not because she is just as bad (she is obviously not) or because they were paid bad actor agents of the far right, but simply because, despite being the better of two options, she just wasn’t left enough to represent their views.

                    I’m not saying this is the correct approach or they did the right thing here. But the varying degrees of left constantly arguing with each other creates more and more room for far right fascists to trample us. You don’t have to agree with them, but you do need to organize with them to make any real change.

                    It’s that, or yell into the Lemmy void ineffectually at people who are closer aligned to you than the actual problem.

    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      9 days ago

      Better do it now, cause glorious leader Trump will mobilize the military to shut it down quick.
      We have Tiananmen Square Massacre at home.