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      This has been going on for at least the last week or two. An article I read said they could account for a biased poll, but I think the quantity is still skewing the average. If these polls are suspect, because of their source, it’s unclear to me why polling websites sites are uncritically taking them into account.

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    This was the plan all along. This has always been the end game. I have seen no major movements in our government to prevent this

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      This is why it’s important to vote in record numbers no matter where people live. Kamala needs to win in a landslide in as many places as possible to leave no doubt that these polls were bogus. Otherwise we could end up with contested election results all over the country. edit: typos

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        You’re missing MAGA logic though. If Harris wins in a landslide, that’s further proof that the results were tampered with, because clearly not that many people actually voted for her…

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          Following that strategy we would be giving the election away to Trump. A small deviation from the polls in Kamala’s favor would be more suspect than a large one, because it would be easier to fake. We cannot win over MAGA Republicans in this narrow time window, they will say the election is rigged even if Trump wins. For most people, seeing Kamala win in a landslide would be proof the polls got it wrong.

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            Oh, sorry, don’t misunderstand - obviously a crushing defeat in the popular vote is the best outcome.

            I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

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              I’m just saying they have a plan for a narrow loss and a plan for getting the shit kicked out of them.

              No, your argument is mistaking nonsense and lying no matter what as a plan. The way we win is by them getting the shit kicked out of them in the election count results. It makes MAGA Republicans sound absurd when they try to say millions of votes were faked. The majority of people know that’s ridiculous because we all live in reality. Making the MAGA movement look like clowns when they inevitably make their false claims is how we win.

              To put it another way, we don’t need to win over MAGA loyalists, we need to win over everyone else. The smaller the margin of the victory for Kamala, the more credible the MAGA movement’s claims seem. They will make the same claims no matter the actual results. That’s not logic, that’s additional evidence that the MAGA movement is a cult. So we need to pull the rug out from under the MAGA movement with a landslide victory for Kamala by voting in record numbers.

              It’s not a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t. It’s a case of making it clear that the inevitable lie from MAGA is in fact a lie.

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    Jesus Christ he’s going apeshit with the facepaint. Good god man, are you trying for blackface and missing?

    That is the face of a demented sociopathic rapist. Not, like, rhetorically - literally.

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    Strategists? Really? Trump is literally already saying that if he loses its because of fraud. The seeds are sewn and the sign is up. Not sure strategists are needed here.

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    The good news is that Biden is president this time, not trump. Plus the immunity for protecting democracy by ruthlessly enforcing election integrity

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    Typically you warn someone of something that they were not originally expecting. When it is expected, that is usually referred to as reminding. Like a reminder that this Sunday is the end of daylight savings time in the United States.

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      There are people who are not plugged in to US politics that check in somewhere at the end of an election cycle. With so much information to consume and so little time it’s easy for people to have missed something. For political junkies, this is a reminder, but for many people it is a warning.

      I try to take a break from the news at least once a week. Even that one day away can put me behind with everything that happens.

      It’s like that Doctor Who episode with the spaceship next to the black hole. The closer we get to election day the more news that happens in a given day. It’s like we’re slowing down by the black hole and years of news are rocketing past us on the other end of the spaceship.

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    It’d be nice if they rejected the result if he won instead but no, of course the Republicans can’t have a spine like that.

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      I’m not sure how many never Trump Republicans are in the House of Representatives or the Senate now. It was a minority before, but it’s probably even smaller now. Mitt Romney didn’t run for reelection in the Senate. Every House seat is up for grabs.

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    Alright. That’s a perfectly reasonable concern. Do the Democrats have a concrete plan prepared to ensure that this doesn’t turn into Bush v Gore round 2? Because if Trump manages to legally contest this to the Supreme Court, then little problems like ‘Justice’ and ‘Truth’ certainly won’t get in their way of installing a dictator.

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      If all people are seeing are the polls, then they could easily be misled. Tell people right-wing organizations are skewing their polls to create a red mirage.

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        I’m not in the US, but it was their playbook last time around and has been consistent with everything they’ve been doing for years. There’s been no significant consequences for their behaviour, why would they not take the same tack?

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          Exactly, that’s why this election is so important. The only way there will be consequences for the fascists is if they are out of power.

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            Sure, sure, but I was making a snarky comment about the “strategists”. I wouldn’t really call “state the bloody obvious” to be particularly insightful analysis!