• Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Describing an 18 year old as a “teen” certainly is a choice. And not one commonly made when the person accused of a crime is black.

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      21 hours ago

      The media seems to have no standard on using terms and switches them willy-nilly to net the better headline.

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        It’s not switched willy-nilly though, it’s strongly correlated with race. The “better headline” is “dangerous black perpetrator prone to crime” and “foolish white boy that looks like you and just made a mistake of youth”. Appealing to the racism is what makes the headline “better” (i.e., more affirming to the majority readership).

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        Yes, teen is literally in the word, but you know that the implication is not “an adult legally responsible for their actions” and the choice of how to describe an alleged criminal is not applied similarly to white and black subjects. A 15 year old black boy will be described as a “black male” while a legally adult white man will be a “teen” until the day of their 20th birthday.

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          “My assumptions are universal assumptions” is one of the many things here I wish we could have left to fester on reddit.

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              Yes, assumptions they imagine were made. If they can point to stats in a study of headline wordings that would be great, but as it is they might as well assert that “teen” implies Martian. The terminology probably came right off the police report, we don’t know - all this does is express an attitude that this is a sign of unspecified entities being racist.

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                It’s not a journalism specific thing, it’s a broad bias to view black children as older than their white peers called “adultification”. But the way you approached this seemingly new concept doesn’t come across as someone looking to learn more about a phenomenon someone referenced but didn’t cite but as someone who thinks most references to prejudices are just made up.

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        That does not matter, by law, he is an adult. The term “teen” is used when under 18 in the news. This is clear bias because of his race.

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            If I told you, “Gary’s fucking a teenager,” I’m guessing you wouldn’t assume that teenager was over 18 and would be thinking maybe the authorities should be contacted.

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              I absolutely would. Do you watch porn? There’s a whole “teen” category

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                Sorry… you would “absolutely” assume that if I told you that “Gary [i.e. someone we both know on a first-name basis] is fucking a teenager” that the person was of legal age because of a porn category?

                Because I’m pretty sure we don’t mutually know a porn star named Gary.

                This also makes me worried about your feelings on incest.

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                  Wow wtf is that kind of strawman? Do you not see the basic correlation between “fucking a teenager” and “fucking a teenager in porn”? porn has normalized that fucking a teenager is 18

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                And quite a few of those ‘teens’ are well over twenty.

                Or so I was told.

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                  My favorite is when they’re “just turned 18” in one video and “MILF” in the next.

                  They are, of course, not technically mutually exclusive, but one doesn’t normally imagine much overlap between those genres.

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            We all get it, the type of porn you watch is still legal even though it has teen in the name.

            This is regarding a legal matter where the man’s sentence will likely be decided by the fact that the court sees him as an adult. In most cases and as the other user pointed out 18 year olds are referred to as men in a legal context. This disturbingly seems to be the standard practice when describing black males of 18.

            Generally speaking, describing alleged criminals as teens implies a lack of legal agency and thus biases the reader toward compassion. The point is that sometimes language can induce bias and consistency is needed. If that consistency falls towards the technicality of having the word teen in their name so be it, but that is not the case with our current media landscape.

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              It’s not their fault they were born with an understanding of nuance that was two sizes too small

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            LOL you’re delving into the typical sorts of pedantics that people turn to when they don’t have an argument. “OOH OOH but Merriam Webster says that ‘teenager’ means blah blah blah” while completely sidestepping the fact that this person is a legal adult and is fully responsible for their actions, which is what the adults in the room are talking about now.

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            Literally just repeating the originally argument instead of responding to the responses. Go fuck yourself.

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    Key displayed a photo taken by a witness of a smiling Williams “brandishing a machete in an aggressive, threatening posture over his head.” The Harris supporters he allegedly threatened are women aged 71 and 54.

    As opposed to just calmly carrying a machete, below one’s head, to a polling place?

    And to a 71 year old woman… just can’t imagine the colossal failures as human beings that this guy’s parents must be as well.

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    This checks as being just the sort of 18 year old who would support Trump. They probably have a long list of right-wing podcasts on repeat.

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      My wife and I are Southern socialist libtards and usually vote in camo. We’ve debated open carrying but decided it wasn’t worth the hassle.

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        If you go too far you might actually dissuade some delta-cuck soyboy libtards from voting.

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            haha.

            I don’t think voting works like that, unless Stein is actually expected to win some EC votes.

            I think if USA actually had some form of PR it’d be a very different kettle of fish.