Practices recorded by UNRWA include the use of a nail gun on prisoners’ knees, sexual abuse against both men and women and the insertion of what appears to be an electrified metal stick into prisoners’ rectums.
Practices recorded by UNRWA include the use of a nail gun on prisoners’ knees, sexual abuse against both men and women and the insertion of what appears to be an electrified metal stick into prisoners’ rectums.
Nobody with any credibility will defend these actions if they are true.
Personally, I do not find an “unpublished report” of nameless and dateless “accounts” from UNRWA, an agency that is Gaza’s largest employer–a significant number of whose employees and managers are supporters and accomplices to Hamas’s continued power in Gaza as a matter of basic math–to be very credible. Especially when it comes to such outrageous, unbelievable, claims.
And for me it’s doubly true when the coverage of the report (of the accounts) is from Qatari state media, funded by mega donors to Islamist nationalist movements. Notice how it cites to itself as verification of the report. Absolutely zero of the accounts have been independently verified, and if someone chimes in below with a link to other coverage, they will likely at least have the decency to say conspicuously that the accounts are unverified.
Fuck me for not believing it, right Hamas fans? It’s not like Hamas and it’s supporters would ever lie or exaggerate to perpetuate its own overt violations of international law as a part of a formal tactic known as lawfare! 🤡
What exactly does one call the coverage of a report of accounts, fourth hand information? Fifth?
Needless to say, if any of the accounts are found to be true, or to have been witnessed by other Israeli soldiers who failed to intervene, I have some hope that the perpetrators will be tried and convicted of their crimes. As opposed to in Gaza, where confessed perpetrators of overt war crimes get prizes.
There always has to be one IDF troll.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/02/israelopt-un-experts-appalled-reported-human-rights-violations-against
GENEVA (19 February 2024) – UN experts today expressed alarm over credible allegations of egregious human rights violations to which Palestinian women and girls continue to be subjected in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.
But to you, the entire rest of the world is magically in Hamas’ pocket because they call you out on this asinine bullshit.
Guess Israel is a better judge of weather Israel is committing warcrimes than the UN would be right? Like asking Trump if he’s guilty of anything.
Bombing women and children and you’re proud of it or so weakwilled you’ve bought into the propaganda saying that shooting the kids is fine, because they’re probably Hamas anyway.
Israel is a piece of shit fascist theocracy, and currently killing and raping innocents, and defending them is morally indefensible and will be seen mostly the same as WWII era Germans who didn’t oppose the holocaust.
Bud your link literally has nothing to do with this post and the specific allegations in this Al Jazeera coverage of a certain report. Seems like you’re emotions are pretty heavily wrapped up in all this. Good luck with that.
Now make a list of Hamas’s war crimes. And make a list of everyone who’s ever been prosecuted by Hamas for a war crime. The list is zero people long. How you going to sit here and condemn Israel when they at least have a justice system based on something other than total religious superstition and hysteria, which is what they have in Gaza?
There’s plenty, which is what I just proved. Your trolling just relied on putting down the source, so there’s the UN experts.
That doesn’t change anything though, you IDF trolls tend to argue “UN is actually led by Hamas”.
First off, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Secondly, did your mom never teach you two wrongs don’t make a right?
Thirdly, the death toll in #Gaza has surpassed 30,000 — a large majority women and children.
But again, you’re just gonna argue that all those kids were Hamas.
Fourth, is the state of Israel a member of the UN or a terrorist organisation? Because there are standards for members of the UN, whereas for terrorist organisations…
There is no depth to what sort of mental gymnastics you’ll get up to defending Israel’s atrocities, because you can’t even conceive you’ve been brainwashed.
It turns my stomach.
Also you edited your earlier comment after my reply to it. Tsk tsk
Anything I edit is for grammar, spelling, clarity, or wit.
Sure it is, lil’ trollito.
That’s why you now ignore everything previously discussed. Because you argue that “if any of the reports are true” and then I link the UN Human Rights Office report about sexual assaults on Palestinians, and you conveniently ignore that.
You also ignore how you’re using whataboutism, a known propaganda technique, to try to say “well, but what about Hamas’ crimes”. But weirdly you don’t answer when I ask you is Israel a member of the UN or a terrorist organisation?
Just like I said, no limit to your mental gymnastics. IDF trolls, smh
You don’t feel the tiniest bit guilty defending a supposedly democratic state that is slaughtering children? Over 12,300 children have been killed in Gaza. Were they all Hamas members? Or perhaps just innocent Palestinians?
Bud your link did the same thing as the Al Jazeera article. It found reports troubling. It didn’t verify the reports. Hamas has as a tactic exaggerating and lying and the population helps them with it. It is working on you.
Oh boo hoo I didn’t answer your loaded and nonsense rhetorical question. Are you quizzing me on UN member states?
My position is pretty consistent I think. Not really any mental gymnastics involved. I have a consistent model.
I find your model inconsistent and ignorant. Do I feel guilty? No. I’m sad for the dead for sure but this was and remains part of Hamas’s plan after October 7. They should surrender but martyrdom is a revered tradition in Hamas’s Gaza, so they won’t. There answer to every ceasefire proposal is no. They could turn themselves in and scuttle the tunnels right now and not one more bomb would fall, but Hamas and their faithful literally want as many fellow civilians to die as possible. Look how well it has worked on you.
Tell me, is telling your countrymen that calls to evacuate are a hoax and to instead go stand on the roof of your building a legitimate tactic of resistance?
Do you have a source for this?
I asked you about 4 times now and you never provide any source. I think I will assume it’s just BS.
You’re trying to compare Israel and Hamas.
Thus we need to establish what you’re comparing.
Code of conduct?
So your standard for the expected conduct from a UN member state is the same as from a terrorist organisation?
Because Israel is breaking laws that UN member have agreed to respect.
There aren’t any credible reports of Israeli hostages being raped. Not one.
There’s tons of credible reports of Israelis abusing Palestinians.
Your position is consistent, yes. The position being “never question anything Israel is doing no matter how horrible it is”. The same as citizens of Nazi Germany.
Warning someone you’re gonna bomb them doesn’t absolve you of bombing them. Bombing civilians is a war crime no matter how many nice notes you give in advance.
This kind of brainwashing is impossible to fight
“My country is genociding women and children on purpose but it’s all actually morally right, because revenge is moral and right.”
My god, you’re like one of those tiny-penis antifeminist bodybuilders, who get slapped by a tiny girl for behaving like an asshole and then you hit knock them on the ground with a fist to the face so hard they get permanent brain damage and then you look at everyone and go “she started it.”
It’s honestly baffling to me that people like you exist. The delusions which you labour under are fascinating. I don’t understand how some people can literally ignore reality to the extent you are.
You’re claiming that UN and 150+ states are spreading Hamas propaganda, but that Israel is the only one tellingthe truth despite a lack of any evidence and killing 12 300 children, which you consider morally defensible.
It’s sickening.
? UN and 150 states? There’s like 11 cosigner’s to South Africa’s UN petition, and they are all shit hole third world authoritarian states with their own atrocious human rights records.
No, I stand with virtually all of Washington DC and all of the foreign service and intelligence communities in the western world.
You are drinking propaganda of people trying to reelect Trump. Period.
I’m not comparing Israel and Hamas to say they should behave the same. I’m saying Hamas does not behave as a member of the international community and therefore it is not one. Gaza is unincorporated lawless territory that is basically free to anyone who can establish a legal system there. Hamas did so, even if is based on religious hysteria, and look what they used it for? Suicide bombings and mass shootings, year in year out.
It’s fine if Gaza wants to live like it’s the year 900. Stay the fuck in Gaza, then. Don’t take international money. Don’t smuggle in weapons and fighters and try and invade your neighbors. They couldn’t do that. So now they have to go.
And zero people will miss Hamas.
Stop putting words in my mouth. I continually condemn Israeli war crimes and call for the perpetrators to be prosecuted. And that might actually happen in Israel, because it’s not a lawless ungovernable hellhole, incapable of protecting human rights for anyone.
All of the mainstream media outlets have published articles on the UNWRA report. This is just the most recent coverage.
They just report them, that doesn’t verify the content. Especially since all report it as not verified.
Here’s the last sentence of CNN’s article on this:
That’s legitimate journalism.
Oh look it’s exactly what I said it would say.
Lol Al Jazeera is a very reputable organization
Ha. That’s a good one!
Sometimes, for some things, they have good coverage. They are playing to their audience and they are as bad as Fox News, which many people think is a very reputable organization.
I’ll tell you what I would tell them, just because you like what they say doesn’t mean they’re reputable.