Is horror punk a part of goth, or does it just share a visual aesthetic

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/36598580

I know what the really early goth bands were (the smiths, banshees, etc) and how it started primarily as post punk, but outside of that im pretty confused on what bands/genres are a part of goth. It doesn’t help that there are a lot of bands (usually alternative metal) that are liked by/associated with goth but have nothing to do with the actual subculture. (Learning about goth so far has felt like the inverse of learning about emo, where I started out knowing mostly newer bands and understood the genre more as I learned more about the early foundational bands, whereas with goth I only really know the early bands and am completely lost from there)